Queries about the new books Options

[graham1980]

Does the spirits from vessel of the spirits "stack" with any other MC that grants spirits as it states it is seprate pool??

yes, in that they are separate to your main pool and spiritual healer etc. add to your main pool.

Lee

[Helsvell]

There are several multiclasses which grant a pool of 12 power which regens. Can you buy these and benefit from the regen if your main power source regens as well? It seems thst it should be able to work this way as they are separate pools but this gives the potential of gaining up to 2 power back per 5 minutes.

as they say they don't work with any form of med or power regen. Be it ability, spell, item. It's either the class or the other source.

Lee

[Helsvell]

Sorry I am probably just getting confused but does this mean if you buy the multiclass you can no longer med back or regenrate your normal power pool? Or just while the pool or 12 power is being regenerated?

Thanks,

Peter

if you start medding/regening from your main pool the power from the class stops regening.

Lee

There are several multiclasses which grant a pool of 12 power which regens. Can you buy these and benefit from the regen if your main power source regens as well? It seems thst it should be able to work this way as they are separate pools but this gives the potential of gaining up to 2 power back per 5 minutes.

as they say they don't work with any form of med or power regen. Be it ability, spell, item. It's either the class or the other source.

Lee

[graham1980]

From level 4 vessel of the spirits "immunity to effects that are not spiritual" would this include rages and similar abilites being used to resist spiritual damage?

In general no. Things like Jump/Rages and stuff are fine. Monk Loc however doesn't work.
Some degree of common sense applies.

Lee

[Mart07]

Hi,

So just a query regarding something thats already cropped up here (and been answered). As per part of Stuart's query on 17th May below -


Given you can acquire new colour glyphs as specialists, can any colour wizard now read scrolls of them? (Wiz Grimoire, p.90, 4th Bullet Point)

...

Ta

Stuart

yes .

Lee

Can any colour wizard read and learn teaching scrolls of "new colours" spells? the bullet point mentioned above reads -
* "New Colour" wizards may make scrolls of their glyphs as per above - but these scrolls may only be read by a mana users of the same magical colour of the scroll"

Which to my mind doesn't imply any wizard can learn them. Also if they can, then what is the point of the T1 Grey Wiz ability A New Rainbow. Or is it that as a Grey Wiz you get extra specialist slots for new colours?

Sorry if this is obvious, and I may well have missed something, but....

Cheers,

M

As mentioned elsewhere when the make bit got added to the book that was left in by mistake. It also says earlier in the Grimoire they can be acquired as specialists now.
The point f the grey wizard ability is as you guessed they get one of each of the colours.

Lee

[Rethrisse]

Currently reading the Shadow Daimon race. Level 1 gives you perm 'Mantic Ally Darkness which doesn't give See Through - what is this actually for? Darkness ® follows you anyway, and the only other thing that the spell Ally Darkness gives you is the See Through.
Also, the level 3 ability is Darkness (s). Is that correct? I.e. wouldn't follow you around, or is it meant to be ®?

It means other darkness ranges cast on you can follow you for the first part, and it is indeed darkness self

Lee

[dhurrell]

Scout tendency 'Killer'
Says "may buy Mighty Strikes and related abilities as a Warrior".

I just want to clarify if should be as 1st class warrior, as the pluralisation of Strikes seems to suggest it's not just 'Mighty Strike 1' which is the only non-1st Class warrior subclass Strike ability?
If not, it seems it's just Mighty Strike 1 and Poised & Ready, so in total seems to be the much weaker of the two compared to Cut throat?

Thanks

Dave H

It's as warrior only. Yes it's not great, but it does give a good buy as for masteries as well if you want to go dabbler as well.

Lee

[graham1980]

Level 2 of vessel of the dead states that they may count as a "body" for the sumonation of undead, Would that include the following list, Vampire since "the body" becomes a vampire?

Any form of skeleton?


Wraith, as once again requires a body that must be wounded??


or is it literally only zombie, ghoul, mummy and similar such are animated corpse??

wraiths don't require bodies, no idea why you think they do.

It lets you embody any undead with physical hits.

Lee

[Dave]

The dragons breath - free spell per 1/15 mana.

If you have gone mancer, pathed can this be mantic?
Assuming yes

you know what they say about assuming.

It stays magical.

Lee

[waynej69]

ALLO HA,

Can you clarify the first class warrior ability contra master all weapons. i.e. walk me up the buys to get to it please?

it says from: Counter mastery and contra mastery vs 3 weapons.

but Counter and contra were always mutually exclusive? hence the 'lesser' equivalents of both.

thanks,
Wayne

contra mastery and counter mastery are not exclusive any more.

Lee

[BennyB]

Pretty sure I know the answer to these, but I thought I should check.

Dabbler now allows you to multi-class to other scout types and Super Dabbler allows you to break the 2 bracket rule with restrictions.

1 - I assume that I could if I were a human pathfinder with super dabbler multi-class to rogue and then wayfinder (even though rogue prevents you from gaining spiritual abilities).

Yes


2 - If I were a scout of a race that couldn't normally start as one of the scout plus types (a goblin perhaps as a purely hypothetical* example) could I still do the above, so the Super dabbler allowing you to do something overruling the race not allowing you to, I assume not, but wanted to check?

Ben

*Perhaps not purely hypothetical

depends on the initial race and how they multi-class.

Lee

[TimTreadwell]

It says that the Priestly classes, including Spirit Warriors, "do not gain the ability to utilise magic items as standard".

Therefore could a Warrior m/c Spirit Warrior use a magic item as the Warrior does have the skill?

Following on, now that priests can have beneficial spells cast on them that do not go down on the use of a spiritual power, could said warrior carry a magic item and still use his powers/discerns etc as a Spirit warrior?

Thanks,

Tim.

You get to use magic items.
I will point out I'm going to pay attention to this and may change my mind in the future if I think it isn't working.

Lee

[Rethrisse]

Witness of the Hidden Secrets Status Stage 2 grants Detect life at-will - is that as Neuronic Detect Life? Or is that a misspelled Detect Lie? (And if the latter, does that function as the paladin ability?)

It's a mis-spelt detect lie.

Lee

[dhurrell]

ALLO HA,

Can you clarify the first class warrior ability contra master all weapons. i.e. walk me up the buys to get to it please?

it says from: Counter mastery and contra mastery vs 3 weapons.

but Counter and contra were always mutually exclusive? hence the 'lesser' equivalents of both.

thanks,
Wayne

contra mastery and counter mastery are not exclusive any more.

Lee

Planning a warrior spend to include 'contra mastery all weapons' that requires both counter and 3x contra masteries, I noticed that contra mastery still reads "may not buy this if counter mastery is already purchased and vice versa'. Is it safe to assume this is an oversight then?

Dave

I thought that line had been removed in the new books, if it's still there it's wrong.

Lee

[Gordon]

Evolution Classes:

Can't find the costs for Magical Artisan or Magical Calligrapher or who they are available for.

I have page 61 ending with "Priest (Neutral)" then Page 62 is "Archer"

They are listed under High Wizard, but should also be available to Wizard as well.

Lee

[bendy]

Hihi


Under telekinetic in the M/C book it states that a tele pen does 6/3. Given the change in neuronic offensive effects that mean a pen now does 6/6 etc should a telekinetic equivalent do the same as the neuronic equivalent ie 6/6 as well for a tele pen.


Cheers

Ben

yep, was missed.

Lee

[fatteacher]

Is it a requirement for players of existing Amlesian characters to buy one of the racial social classes?
I.e. Do I need to buy the Warrior based one for my monk and are there any IC issues with not having purchased one?
Thank you

You don't have to buy the 12 rank status' as they are specifically tied to certain social standings. You do need to buy yuor social status (table 1 abilities).

Lee

[miles]

Vochstelen buys as 1st class grey wizard, can they buy elementalist or over the rainbow, if they have some way to gain mana to cast the spells they could learn.

Miles

Yes they can buy them, and depends on how they get the mana really as it is probably a non-standard way.

Lee

[JasonE]

Hi

Just noticed the change in the cap for Fetches, does the cap count fetches from items?


thanks in advanced

J - the thing known as Dog

Yes.

Lee

[Cildan]

Using Vessel of the Dead, could you embody a Spiritual Knight or a Wraith Warrior?

Assuming you mean Skeletal Knight yes, but not a wraith warrior.
They need to "require a body".

Lee