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post Oct 12 2022, 10:47 AM
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Dear Big Green One, Galdor of Alguz, High Thingy of Talthar,

Right, it’s me, Torrent, or Mr Back, or Stabby; I know it’s hard to keep up, but they are disguises that sometimes confuse people (which I guess is the point!), whatever, but I am that new believer you gave hope to after all that Obsidian nastiness I endured; you know, with the Ishmaic look and daggers: we talked about books which I am still waiting on, but maybe not anymore, but still a little curious … anyhow, I was with your banner boy, old Grisold The Glowy, last Monday, and, well, I feel I gotta grass stuff up. Oh oh, we met some grass creatures in Razcar and the Professor made them think they were dead so we could move through their lands to new sandier lands with nasty midgets, anyhow, so we were in the Void (cold and nasty place) and, oh oh, did I tell you, old Glowy made me the Aspect of Justice and I had to prepare a prayer (it was really good I thought), though I kept asking to recite it they all said latter in the ritual of something or other, so only I know how good it was. That being said I could share it with you later if you want. Where was I, oh, yeah, right, so Glowy had assembled a rag tag bunch; a strange cat creature that I thought was a spy first, though Prof said to say sorry, anyhow, and a wizard in red that kept saying he was a priest, and a faerie from faraway lands with nice hair and a big sword, and well, here’s the point, a nasty chap with an ill look going by the name of Henry was there too. I could tell he was a wrongun at the start in your canteen where we did the conger; all sullen and stuff, not like Egor sullen, like proper shifty looking sullen. Oh and a chap with a nice hat and a big shield. Anyhow, Mr Sullen mooches along all day. Oh, sorry, and a nice man with a less good hat but still an alright hat, who made hot healing potions and shared them with me, a lot, was there. He was really nice, albeit he would disappear a lot so we couldn’t talk more. So Mr Mooche turns round to me, after I was being really useful and did not steal anything all day, not even a fan from the faerie, promise, and said something or other, like a demand or something, else, and here’s the proper point, else he would kill me!

I had flashbacks to those Obsidian people, killing and burning, and treating me like a canary in a mine and making fun of me and threatening to kill me or eat my eternal soul if I didn’t do what they said. I almost lashed out, an afront to my station, you know, as Lord of Justice and all, but I had seen how those two mighty tanks, the ones in armour with bigger shields than a house, had been all day; all calm and trying to defuse violence and only resorting to it as the last option and I thought to myself, “that’s an example to be followed, specially as I am a Lord now and I should show Justice!”. Maybe he couldn’t hide his ill aspect, and, well, I decided, like my prior name sack, before LORD OF JUSTICE, being ‘of Mercy’, that I would let him off and explain why he shouldn’t kill me. But then he made my mouth shut and I couldn’t form words and proceeded to tell me that he was still going to kill me. Yes, AGAIN!

I tried to explain in grunts and by waving my hands that if he didn’t bend the knee and apologise I was going to do my name sake, the full gambit, first, middle and last name, all at once and continuously and without mercy and bring Justice to him; there is a lot of power in names. But then Mr T, Tank Numero Onero, steps up and I could tell he was genuinely concerned; although I think he may be feared for me and not Mr Miserable Life Threatener, but that’s likely just his ignorance. I could tell that deep down he feared the loss of life and strife in general (being ‘Justice Incarnate’ allows you a deeper and more penetrating perspective I have found), and I respected his restraint and thought to follow Tarquins’ example, so I stayed my Hands and Blades and instead gave Mr Nasty the Eyes and the Stare instead.

But then everyone and his dog, that’s just an expression, there were no dogs, started telling me to stop and saying that Mr Nasty could bring me down easily bla bla bla, it was like they were baiting me. Anyhow, at that point, I thought something like “what’s the point, I found Hope here, but they are just the same, baiting me on to show them my mastery of the blades as I flit in and out faster than a mind can think’. They knew I didn’t want to hurt anything (nasty shades in the Void don’t count), and here they were, the ragtag bunch AND my subjects (as Aspect of Justice), or if you will, my fellow Hopefuls, egging me on. So, in one last salute to your Lord, he of Hope, I spared Mr Horrids’ life, didn’t cause any strife for Mr T and flitted away.

So, I have grassed stuff up, but I had to coz you is the big boss and bought me in; it’s respectful, but now I have Despair. It has clutched my heart and I can no longer stay by your side and continue to be your Lord of Justice. Although it pains me, and sorry Mr T and I’ll miss you Prof, I can stay with you no longer. I have too much Despair weighting on me to have any Hope…

Sorry

Bye

Stabby
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post Oct 12 2022, 01:53 PM
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Galdor has shared your missive with those you travelled with, so whilst no longer being of the faithful I’ll respond here.

I honestly think it’s best you do go and find some like-minded individuals to associate yourself with rather than attaching yourself to a faith that you have absolute no common cause with.

The only personal motivation I could see on your part for being there was to provide an audience of goodly, peaceful folk to inflict your insane and pointless nonsense on all day without a risk of them beating you to death, as many mercenaries would.

I’ve been around a fair while and travelled with a lot of people and I have never met anyone so utterly unsuited to mercenary work as yourself.

Bar casting a couple of shocks on a warding your only significant impact on the day’s work in Razcar was to:
- Tediously announce yourself as the Aspect of Justice all day
- Spend the entire day deliberately disrupting any attempts for others to scout
- Scaring away locals who the church were attempting to spread their faith to
- Shattering weapons whilst hidden from the other side of the room during a parlay with some locals to try and initiate a fight

As far as I’m concentrated you are still on your final strike and it’s probably best you fled when you did. If I encounter you again in a mercenary mission, I’ll follow through on my promise if you carry on in the same vein.

As you seem to have zero ability to self-regulate your incessantly irritating and destructive personality, I’d imagine you’ll find this behaviour impossible to stop - so I’ll finish with my original point that you should go find a fey court to retire to and just go.

Henry Hope



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post Oct 12 2022, 02:37 PM
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I couldn't find Galdor, so think it's going to be time for me to pop on a my diplomacy hat here for a minute and step in.

I think you are both over reacting and it's a huge shame to see.

Stabby is excitable and genuinely believes he is going good things to be nice to those around him. I genuinely believe his heart is in the right place.
Henry is incredibly competent and has seen much danger and harm, yet remains a steadfast ally.

You were both right with wanting to best care for those around you.

Stabby you WERE thoughtless at times. Henry you WERE harsh. That doesn't make either of you wrong with your approach, but does mean there is impact on others which should be considered.

Stabby I am sorry you do not feel I stuck up for you sufficiently.

Henry I am sorry I did not seek to curb some of Stabby's over enthusiasm at the cost of danger. The battering I took was my own cost and my own fault, not that of Stabby, I was being stubborn to get a reaction and I got one. I also deliberately did not attack back to prove the point they were out classed and no threat to us, to try to illicit more reasonableness from them. That was on me.

So in short, sorry not let's put this behind us and get on with the job at hand.

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post Oct 12 2022, 04:06 PM
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See, I was right; all can see how horrid Mr Nasty is (and I was also right about Egor as well; he may have a face like a puckered donkeys bum that stands out when you first meet him, but when you get to know him, he is nice of heart after all!)

So, to Egor first: I can’t see how I am over-reacting; my account of things is proved noting further moodiness above and another threat to my life. I also don’t see how I was thoughtless; I always think…sometimes before I act. This being said I thought you were egging me on and wanted me to do the special art on Moody Balls, so I thought maybe you where Obsidian and infiltrated Glowys team … but I didn’t want to upset Mr T with Strife and and and …

Now to Mr Pooh Pants:

I bite my thumb at you … I can see you aren’t of the faithful, regardless to what name you have, you have venom and bile and are a nasty bully: no better than those void shades; devoid (see how I did that) of lightness of heart. I am not sure why I am entertaining a criminal of your low standing, but:

- You may find the teachings of hope beneath you, but I took my duties seriously and preached the finer points of Justice as any proper priest would do
- We didn’t have any scouts so it was left to me; I’m not even a scout but I didn’t see you putting yourself out front and in danger and I found out lots of valuable things that Tony gave me praise for so ner ner
- It wasn’t me who scared them away; I was in the same garb as they and spoke their lingo and they were approaching but they then saw your nasty boat and legged it. I caught up with them later and can confirm it wasn’t Egor’s boat, but yours! So there
- I met the Dark Dwellers before most others and realised they were looking for a fight; I remind you of my then heightened perception having been elevated to Divine status (which I miss now, all because of you), I even felt obliged to flit away as I could tell the short dweller was going to lay into me and that would of then definitely started a fight. Others came out and I could tell it was still going to kick off so I did a sensible thing and removed their weapons to save strife. That didn’t start any fights, Egor started the fight sometime later as the poor dweller had obviously lost hope and then Egor was sticking his donkey in his face and all; it’s not the Dwellers fault that he didn’t know Egor is nice. Egor even says this above.

So, there, I have set the record straight for all to see; I like Egor trying to be nice to you, perhaps once upon a time you deserved such, but, well, all can see you are a wrongun now and on the way to the Obsidian side and have increased HER power (Egor – see, I thought, and hence didn’t say HER name, although I think she will want me to in future; remember there is power in names and she has my heart in her dark clutches now): anyhow I forgive Egor as I realise that he didn’t want me to hurt you and was trying to protect you and not egging me on now.

But a slight was done, not once, not twice but thrice, with your threats, so justice, (not Taltharian justice, as that mantle I have now left behind) must be done. However I ask Egor to petition his fellows and not contact the authorities and have you locked away forever with only nasty watery soup to eat, but instead I ask that you, as is customary, may choose one of the following:

• Judgement by your peers, or
• Three bouts of thumb war, or
• A dual

You must accept the penance of judgement if that be your choice, else the victor of the thumb war or dual if that be the way you choose, receives an apology which must be accompanied by small cakes with thick butter icing, sculpted into some small woodland creature, ideally a butterfly … else off to prison you go when Egor tells the Watch.

Your choice Mr Not Very Useful and Very Horrid Person

Stabby the Merciful


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post Oct 12 2022, 06:14 PM
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Brothers in hope - I ask you to stand down and stop this exchange.

This is not a matter of faith but a dispute between mercenary brothers. However, at the point that any living being feels despair, it should be clear to us all, that we must stop, for we only make her more powerful.

I will not engage in further dialogue on the subject but will simply state that while travelling under the Banner of Hope no brother will come to harm at the hands of another - not upon my watch. I wish only we had resolved this adversity while on Rascar. Grisgriel and I will learn from our failure to do so and work to lead you better in the future. I wish you both peace and hope.

May the light shine forth - forever.

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post Oct 13 2022, 11:17 AM
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On my Mr T, you are nice and serene and an example to us all.

Tell you what, if I can be Lord of Justice again, I really really really HOPE you will say yes, then I promise to try to be nice to Mr Nasty and will tell HER to jog on too. But I’m not saying sorry to him and he has to promise to not kill me and try really hard to be a little bit nice and if he does (be nice that is, not kill me) then I will check with him in future before I do anything, well not like everything; if I need to breath or eat or something, but anything that I think might, even the tiniest little wincey bit upset him, I’ll check first. Promise. But he has to say he won’t kill me and be nicer. Deal?

Oh, Glowys’ name is not Grisold or whatnot, I forgot, it’s Grisgriel. There’s power in names and I didn’t want to confuse him so please just let him know he can be Grisgriel again.

So, Mr T, deal?

And … Mr … Henry (there, see, I’m trying), promise to not kill me and try to smile occasionally … (not that I’m scared, or nufink, I’m really good at thumb war)?

Stabby the Forgiving, petitioning Lord of Justice 2.0



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post Oct 13 2022, 01:24 PM
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Ok Ok... that's enough of that...

Stabby:

Henry despite how you feel about him has given more than you can understand to this church and this faith... He gave everything he was in the name of hope, and I am quite done hearing you bad mouth the man... so stop, stop now... address him as you would wish to be addressed with respect or there will be consequences for everyone.

Henry:

I cannot imagine your sacrifice or how much it hurts and angers you to see everything you gave up, treated, with, what to your eyes, must seem flippant disrespect. I can understand your desire to do something about that. Don't! its's not your place nor your right anymore, and to attack a member of the faithful will bring you into conflict with people who respect you and want nothing but the best for you. because please understand if you attack Stabby there will be conflict I will persecute it myself.

We will clean our own house to that end...

Grisgriel and Tarquin

I'm not sure what happened while you are in Razcar, but unseemly arguments and mud slinging are not what I expect as an aftermath from the gathering of the faithful, and any guests you may chose to take with you to aid you. I think we could probably work on your leadership style...

So in closing and for the avoidance of any doubt...

Stabby, You are NOT the "Lord of Justice" and I expect you to stop claiming to be from this moment on. I suspect you represented the aspect of hope through justice as part of a ritual or ceremony, but I assure you that you do not get to be "Lord of " anything in this church by dint of the say so of an Arch angel and my Herald, important and respected voices though they are.

That dos not mean you cannot devote yourself to hope through justice, that does not mean your views are less important, that does not mean you should feel threatened by others... however, you are by nature of birth a creature of chaos, and it is inevitable that those who do not share or understand your chaotic nature can find you wearing... I am finding you wearing and I am also a creature of Chaos.

I expect you to remember that not everyone will see the world as you do, I expect you to understand that where you feel hope can be found in the joy of freedom and the lack of restraint others will find it in order and calm and quiet consideration... Hope is Constant, Hope is ever changing you will respect it and where others find it, if you can do that and prove that you truly understand and want to understand hope, then you will find here a group of people who will support you and help you and encourage you. IF you can't do that then I will "escort" you from the cathedral grounds myself, and I can promise you that if it comes to that you will wish that Henry had just done things his way.

Our arms are open, we want you here, we trust you to be here, but we are not a joke... there are people who will struggle with the way you approach the world, I get that, believe me... but if I can cope, you can cope.

I think we are done here... Stabby there is no need to reply...

Harpell


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post Oct 13 2022, 04:02 PM
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Harpell

Thank you for your words, I’ll retire from Talthar’s halls at this point.

However, should I meet this individual again I make no promise of the outcome and will act as I see fit.

HH

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post Oct 14 2022, 02:37 PM
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But saying ‘there is no need to reply’ and especially ending it with ‘…’ is like a red flag to a rhinoceros, or is that a frog … yes, a bullfrog … no a bull; it’s like a red flag to a bull! So, here are my thoughts, I’ll try to be succinct:

• What’s the most important meal of the day: a lot of people say that breakfast …

Oh sorry, I’ll constrain it to relevant thoughts; that will be more briefer:

• I didn’t know who you was when I read all that stuff you said above like you was a Lord or something, which makes you a hypo-crypt coz you also said there was no Lords in our club. But then I saw the way you spoke to Glowy and Mr T, and, well, like Egor said, I did some thinking first this time, like I said I’d try, and did some research …

• So hi, da bigger boss, even bigger than old Galdor the Green; it is nice of you to spend the time chatting. You know, the ‘He Who Is Elbrime’ bit makes me think, in my minds eye, if I ever meet you, as if you are really dirty … He Who Is Grime. I’m not saying you are unwashed, just that Elbrime sort of rhymes with Grime … anyhow, succinct and all that, yeah, moving on,

• I am sorry I called Henry sullen; he was a bit though! But I’m sorry. I tried to be nice to him but I could tell he didn’t like me much so I didn’t talk to him more earlier in the day. I guess I gave up hope that he would like me; I have failed a test I can see now and get why I can’t be Lord of Justice again therefore (which I know I am not, I was only petitioning). Fair enough

• I wasn’t bad mouthing anyone, he was HARSH like Egor said, going all Obsidian on me. The flashbacks are still haunting me. He could of just told me who he was and that I should check in with him instead of threatening to kill me. I did everything everyone else told me to do, just ask them, I really did, really. I would of done the same for Master Henry if he had just asked, we were all on the same team after all

• I’m sorry I upset Henry. I didn’t mean to. I was trying really hard and he wasn’t very nice and I didn’t know he was like in the club proper. But I didn’t do anything wrong, honest. Sorry anyway

• Can we be friends now Henry. Please please please. I’ll get you a cake like as if I lost the war to make it up to you and if we hang out again I’ll check in on you as I told Mr T above I would. Friends? Besties? xxx

Oh, Grimey, I knew an ‘escort’ once; it’s the way you put it in inverted comma’s that makes me know what you is saying ( … 27b Back Door Alley, Thursday at the 10th bell, come alone …). So, now Henry and I are best friends and Grimey and I are on a first name basis, I think it all worked out well in the end. Hen, I’ll get to practicing my baking and all, no need for a reply, like Harps says … unless you want to … xxx

Stabby Stabby Backstab
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PS – Glowy and Mr T were really good, don’t be angry at them. Mr T even checked in on me afterwards
PPS – Given I failed the hope test, but that I am full of hope again now that me and H are mates, but that I can’t be an aspect in the ritual or whatnot, I am gonna need a title and a job to give me more hope as I fall into your arms and cope etc. Hows about “Acolyte of Justice” … it’s good you’ve got to admit? (I can submit the aforementioned Prayer of Justice for your consideration if you like)
PPPS – And if you can get Galdor to send me the books I can read up more and be a better Acolyte, the best Acolyte that one can be


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post Oct 14 2022, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(SNE @ Oct 14 2022, 03:37 PM) *
But saying ‘there is no need to reply’ and especially ending it with ‘…’ is like a red flag to a rhinoceros, or is that a frog … yes, a bullfrog … no a bull; it’s like a red flag to a bull! So, here are my thoughts, I’ll try to be succinct:


right so we are doing this then... OK but I did warn you not to reply.

QUOTE(SNE @ Oct 14 2022, 03:37 PM) *
• I didn’t know who you was when I read all that stuff you said above like you was a Lord or something, which makes you a hypo-crypt coz you also said there was no Lords in our club. But then I saw the way you spoke to Glowy and Mr T, and, well, like Egor said, I did some thinking first this time, like I said I’d try, and did some research …

• So hi, da bigger boss, even bigger than old Galdor the Green; it is nice of you to spend the time chatting. You know, the ‘He Who Is Elbrime’ bit makes me think, in my minds eye, if I ever meet you, as if you are really dirty … He Who Is Grime. I’m not saying you are unwashed, just that Elbrime sort of rhymes with Grime … anyhow, succinct and all that, yeah, moving on,


Harpell is sufficient.

QUOTE(SNE @ Oct 14 2022, 03:37 PM) *
• I am sorry I called Henry sullen; he was a bit though! But I’m sorry. I tried to be nice to him but I could tell he didn’t like me much so I didn’t talk to him more earlier in the day. I guess I gave up hope that he would like me; I have failed a test I can see now and get why I can’t be Lord of Justice again therefore (which I know I am not, I was only petitioning). Fair enough

• I wasn’t bad mouthing anyone, he was HARSH like Egor said, going all Obsidian on me. The flashbacks are still haunting me. He could of just told me who he was and that I should check in with him instead of threatening to kill me. I did everything everyone else told me to do, just ask them, I really did, really. I would of done the same for Master Henry if he had just asked, we were all on the same team after all

• I’m sorry I upset Henry. I didn’t mean to. I was trying really hard and he wasn’t very nice and I didn’t know he was like in the club proper. But I didn’t do anything wrong, honest. Sorry anyway


I'm not saying Henry was not Sullen, you'd probably be a little down if you were spending the day so close to everything you loved and once held dear and yet it all just be a fingertip away from your grasp. I can understand why he found you hard work, but the real question is can you?

Take me and Pen... I [----] her the [----] off... I really do, because I am what I am and I can't change that... I get that I upset her, so I try and moderate when I am around her... I can't stop being me, I can't deny my nature, but I can at least be mindful that she (like many others) does not always agree with what I am or what I am for...

You want to make this work, you need to start doing the same, you need to understand that some times you are just going to wind people the [----] up... and when you realise that you just need to stop it... if you can (you won't always be able to, you are who you are)

QUOTE(SNE @ Oct 14 2022, 03:37 PM) *
• Can we be friends now Henry. Please please please. I’ll get you a cake like as if I lost the war to make it up to you and if we hang out again I’ll check in on you as I told Mr T above I would. Friends? Besties? xxx


Henry's gone, but no... you don't just get to be his "friend" because you want to, or because you are sorry... even if you really are and even if you really really want to be... friends don't work like that, friendship is built on lots of things and they can be different for different people... but as a start (and I am guessing here) if you want to be Henry's friend, then next time you meet him, show him you have learned, show him you can grow, show him you have tried to understand why he got upset with you and that you want to be his friend... give him the time and the space to see you are a good man and he will come around to it... because he IS a good man.

QUOTE(SNE @ Oct 14 2022, 03:37 PM) *
PS – Glowy and Mr T were really good, don’t be angry at them. Mr T even checked in on me afterwards
PPS – Given I failed the hope test, but that I am full of hope again now that me and H are mates, but that I can’t be an aspect in the ritual or whatnot, I am gonna need a title and a job to give me more hope as I fall into your arms and cope etc. Hows about “Acolyte of Justice” … it’s good you’ve got to admit? (I can submit the aforementioned Prayer of Justice for your consideration if you like)
PPPS – And if you can get Galdor to send me the books I can read up more and be a better Acolyte, the best Acolyte that one can be


Grisgriel and Tarquin a good, I'm not angry, it's not easy to lead, I'm not claiming to be brilliant at it, I have my own issues, but they can learn from this and that's good for them.

Hope isn't a test you pass or fail... its something you find, something you cherish and nurture, each of us in our own way, it can be hard to see that because it's different for each of us, hence your issues with Henry and Mine with Penny... that doesn't mean it's any less real, stop thinking like its all a test or a game than can be won or lost... its more about how you live your life.

As for a title, just try being Stabby first... find out what hope means to you, I am not saying Justice is not the home for you, but there are many facets to hope...

I'll send you some scripture...

So. I am not going to engage with you again, not right now, you need time, and if I have to keep doing this [----] I think you may end up finding out why I am a creature of chaos and just why penny gets so damn pissed off at me... for what it's worth though I reckon you can do this.

Harpell


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