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Netheril
post Oct 5 2022, 08:13 AM
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I am creating this separate chamber to list information known, or discovered in the next few weeks:

The Pillars of time can be used to freeze time for 9 hours across a whole layer of the exostance by placing the pillars in a ritually significant pattern across 7 of the 21 planes. The pillars can then be activated by the Duke of Amber (Myrion?). Essentially this will freeze time. The effects are very potent and will affect anyone not infused by the Old Ones as their power comes from beyond the exostance and anyone that has Vitae due to their pure primal power taking them outside of the ritual. It should be worth noting that the ritual will have some chaotic effects so some gods will be terrible powerful and require the very toughest mercenaries to deal with them and others may be weakened to the point that more junior mercenaries will be able to deal with them.

Essentially the ritual means that everyone will be incapacitated except the forces of the Council of Renewal, the Old Ones and some inhabitants of the 21 planes and the mercenaries themselves for approximately 9 hours (OOC 10am – 7pm themeday).

During this time it may be possible to slay all 21 of the children of the Old Ones that sit at the centre of the 21 Planes. This will not be easy and will require blades forged by the Old Ones. There are 3 of these currently in circulation amongst the mercenary community and it may be possible to obtain four more creating the “Divine Brotherhood of Blades” although only one of these daggers is currently active and useable. The Daggers are Quel’ith the Eldest brother, the other brothers are Dormante, Trillian, Surtan, Scallath, Borzan and Turthank. Importantly it should be noted that the blades are sentient so do not discuss plans in front of the blades as they will communicate your plans to the Old Ones. It should also be noted that it is possible to change the allegiance of the blades as they are sentient creatures.

Anyone can wield the blades but be warned they will attempt to take control of their wielder if able too.

You should also be aware that once the old ones die this would normally destroy the plane and much of the surrounding area of the Exostance and close by planes as a huge wash of power will disperse across the exostance.

The solution to this is set up individual rituals that will absorb this huge wash out of power at the point where the old one is slain. The central artefact of each of these rituals should be of significance to a deity, such as a god or a dragon. This will influence the belief of the plane to that end. For example placing an egg of the Gold Dragon would increase the influence of the Gold Dragon on that Plane significantly. Sirac could for example place his egg on a plane and the plane would represent himself.

This will be difficult killing 21 Old One Gods in 9 hours is a difficult task by any stretch of the imagination and even missing just one will mean the ritual goes off.

Elzabeth and Bi’lar will not accept Labyrinthia not moving on at this stage and will therefore step back but as promised they will not interfere with your plans. Although they are open to some negotiation. Both are capable of killing an Old One God-child, although this would make Elzabeth
vulnerable. Bi’lar could kill an Old One with no problem. Bi’lar is desperate for Elzabeth’s hand in marriage. Elzabeth just wants peace and no further world’s to die she only wants to do good in the Exostance and is at an existential crisis.
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post Oct 5 2022, 08:17 AM
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The blades mentioned above have been acquired. Most are in the possession of Lord Jesiah. There is at least one I believe that is not. But nonetheless I believe most if not all will be present for the upcoming gathering, and made available for the slaying of these Old Ones children.

I have not had the opportunity to meet with Elzabeth and Bi'lar, as we ran out of time to do all that was needed. But I still hope to speak with them when we gather on the 22nd.

Whilst I believe it is essential that we are resigned to the necessity of destroying these worlds if needed to succeed, I would also encourage all groups to make any preparations they can for seizing the opportunity to save those that can be saved, with the appropriate rituals and substantial sacrifices made for this Purpose.

References to the Duke of Amber actually refer to Myrion. I am unsure if he is able to attend this gathering, if not I hope someone else with significant temporal knowledge can activate the pillars.

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post Oct 5 2022, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(Netheril @ Oct 5 2022, 09:17 AM) *
The blades mentioned above have been acquired. Most are in the possession of Lord Jesiah. There is at least one I believe that is not. But nonetheless I believe most if not all will be present for the upcoming gathering, and made available for the slaying of these Old Ones children.

I have not had the opportunity to meet with Elzabeth and Bi'lar, as we ran out of time to do all that was needed. But I still hope to speak with them when we gather on the 22nd.

Whilst I believe it is essential that we are resigned to the necessity of destroying these worlds if needed to succeed, I would also encourage all groups to make any preparations they can for seizing the opportunity to save those that can be saved, with the appropriate rituals and substantial sacrifices made for this Purpose.

References to the Duke of Amber actually refer to Myrion. I am unsure if he is able to attend this gathering, if not I hope someone else with significant temporal knowledge can activate the pillars.

Sirac


I can be present if Myrion is unavailable.

I am what my People would call a Seer of Chronos, and I am capable manipulating time. However you should note I exist outside of your time line. If you wish I will investigate whether I am able to assist you.

Unfortunately my recent arrival on this time line has meant I have had to limit my impact upon it while the timeline adjusts to my presence and I am not the Psychic force I once was in the early IM1000's but if I can help I would be grateful for access to these pillars as a point of academic interest alone.

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post Oct 5 2022, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(Patch @ Oct 5 2022, 09:36 AM) *
I can be present if Myrion is unavailable.

I am what my People would call a Seer of Chronos, and I am capable manipulating time. However you should note I exist outside of your time line. If you wish I will investigate whether I am able to assist you.

Unfortunately my recent arrival on this time line has meant I have had to limit my impact upon it while the timeline adjusts to my presence and I am not the Psychic force I once was in the early IM1000's but if I can help I would be grateful for access to these pillars as a point of academic interest alone.

Da'Karte
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Greetings,

Myrion has confirmed he plans to attend. Nonetheless your expertise would be welcome, you can find me at the Tower of Gold Magery in Halgar, and from there I can take you to the pillars.

Sirac

((ooc feel free to send your investigations to Rich. Note Sirac is very insistent on you only handling one pillar at a time, seems convinced it would be BAD for any of the pillars to touch))
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post Oct 5 2022, 09:34 AM
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I will indeed be available, and as a time warden of Primus, I have the power to activate and utilise these time pillars.

Indeed, I have amber magic in my arsenal, as I believe that will be necessary.

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post Oct 5 2022, 12:38 PM
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So a little jaunt to kill a whole bunch of Gods all in one day. Sounds like it will be hard work.

With regards to the daggers in what way do they try and control you?
I reckon some way to ward the less powerful mercenarys from this mite be worth looking into.

Is it posible to get a list sorted of which old ones each group will be going after and in which order ready before the day?

Do we have any information on each of the gods? And what kind of things we will likely encounter on our way to kill each one?

That's all my questions for now.

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post Oct 5 2022, 12:47 PM
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Also can we agree this is the way forward and it what is needed, we do not have time for 2 hours arguement about saving these worlds, allowing Primus to move on etc. This is the way and we get on with it, i am concerned we could fail just because we waste so much time discussing other options we are never going to take

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post Oct 5 2022, 01:38 PM
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I have a number of questions some of which may of course be answered by my study of the Pillars, but with that said I shall set them out below.

1.) do you have precise details for the ritual positioning of the Amber Pillars, and further details of the rituals required to access/activate them. Are we going to be able to do this quickly, it does not seem like you have large amounts of time to conduct complex rituals as well as kill 21 godlings?

2.) you refer to a layer of exostance... do you have further details on the "exostantial space" this term covers? and assuming time is frozen within, are those creatures infused by the power of the old ones (or Vitae) able to enter or exit this layer once the widely understood temporal flow has ceased... in short, can either side escape or seek reinforcements?

3.) Where did the pillars come from and how were they created? This may be irrelevant for your goals and aims but possibly of great interest to those of us who take an interest, academic or otherwise, in the standard temporal model of cause and effect.

4.) I would second Shanks wise question in regard to these blades and the nature by which they may attempt control of their wielder, it would be ill advised to have them turn on us at a crucial moment, likewise a clear understanding of their levels of sentience and abilities to perceive their surroundings/wielder.

4b.) can the old one children be harmed solely by the daggers? or is it just a case of the final wounds before their death that must be inflicted by these blades?

5.) I am unclear on your thought and intent on the event of a death of an old one child, you specify that when such a death occurs that the resultant wash of power will destroy that plane and cause significant damage to the near exostance. You then partly detail a rite that must use the focus of a deity to refocus belief on the plane... on this point my questions are as follows.

5.a) Does this ritual in some way prevent the destruction of the plane?

5b.) Do you not seek the destruction of these planes, is that not required to provide a continuation of primal normality?

5c.) Assuming 5a is YES, and 5b is NO do you have a clear plan for these rites, and the focusses that must be used? can they be enacted quickly, and are all groups aware of how they should be enacted. many individuals will struggle to survive the combustion of their immediate reality.

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post Oct 5 2022, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(darkrule233 @ Oct 5 2022, 10:34 AM) *
as a time warden of Primus

Myrion,
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Bitch.

Anyway, I’m glad to see this finally coming to an end, stab up a few more gods, hopefully not the Ewok ones because they came closest to killing me…

I’ve done a few communications and am mulling the responses over, but I’m pretty confident in our ability to stop Sirac being dead dead. Stab up some tentacle gods, stab up some justice blokes, in the tavern by 4.

What could possibly go wrong?!

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post Oct 5 2022, 03:00 PM
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I have now been able to visit and view the Amber Pillars.

This has made somethings clearer. Some of this I am sure is already known, however I shall detail it here.

The Amber pillars exist out of phase with your time and normal primal reality.

It is important that they should not touch one another should they do so they will all be destroyed, and it is highly likely that all but the most powerful of mercenary's would be slain, and then again on each subsequent day for an indeterminant time... for the record, I find the concept of indeterminant time deeply disturbing, I would suggest a full year and a day, but that's an educated estimate. They should be kept at significant distance from each other at all times.

There should be no unforeseen consequences of a negative nature from their use, they do precisely as has been described elsewhere and nothing more nor less, however, they may be used only once, they were created for this purpose and only this purpose.

It seems they were created by the "Magics" (and I use this term more as an embracing term for supernatural powers and skills) of the Old Gods, they are highly chaotic in nature, they contain powerful Amber magic, and can only be effectively operated by one who holds the mantel and power of the Duke of Amber. (Myrion I believe)

When activated they will "Stop time" for a period of 9 hours... I am happy to explain this in some greater detail if people need me to but I find that temporal concepts can be troubling to those of you on a linear path, when their effect ends, all the time that took place within the area of their effect will snap back into the normal perceived flow of time. For those without, all that happened within would appear to occur simultaneously. Therefore if all old ones are killed, and the correct rituals established at the site of their deaths, then it should be possible to dissipate the ritual energy of their deaths.

Please note what follows is superstition and extrapolation... (aka these theories should be checked and verified)

Those within the area of effect will have 9 hours of time as they perceive it to carry out the killing of 21 deities, and establish 21 rituals of "significant power" to dissipate the resultant energies, it is possible that this could be done in any order e.g. kill all the gods and then go back around and establish all the rituals.

There are unspecified "Chaotic effects" that will/may occur within and possibly without the temporal bubble (for what of a better description) we should see if we can narrow these down a little, and understand whether we can use them to our advantage rather than allow them to be a detriment.

I have remaining academic queries about why the old ones created (or allowed the creation) of artifacts that exist purely for the purpose of killing their children... do they somehow stand to gain from this? was the power taken from them without their knowledge or consent? what if any is the link between Amber magics and these old ones?

I could perhaps study them further if anyone has other questions on their nature, but for now I would suggest, Myrion confirms the exact actions he needs to take to activate them, the rites to absorb the power of the old one children are planned, formulated and agreed in detail.

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post Oct 5 2022, 03:01 PM
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1) The daggers. Lord Jesiah has taken personal charge of these. He is quite determined to try and possess them all if at all possible. He has been aware of their nature for quite some time, and has had plenty of time to ensure their...obedience. I do not expect these to be an issue as such, but if you want more information / reassurance I would recommend speaking directly to him.

2) With regards Karsh's question, I truly hope we are far enough along now that nobody will expect to turn up on the very last day, and turn the tide of what has been planned and worked towards for the last year. Now is the time to raise any final concerns there may be, but on the day, my expectation is there will be enough people present there who are focussed on getting the job done. And it will be my intent that we dont spend any more time talking about what must be done than is absolutely necessary. There will be a lot to get done, and it will be important we make a speedy start.

3) Da Karte's questions, in order. Yes, we know the locations the pillars must be placed in. It will be "simply" a matter of expending the necessary power to travel to each site, placing the pillars and activating them. It is my expectation this will have been done before most people are even gathered.

4) There is the exostance. Then there is a veil, beyond which lies the far realms. This is where these Old Ones reside. Over the years I have had several occassions to be involved with attempts to deal with threats arising from beyond this veil. Every time it has been a...scarring experience. My recommendation would be to leave well enough alone. You are already an expert in temporal matters, those are troublesome enough! But if you truly wish to learn more, you will need to speak with others I fear. With regards reinforcements, it is likely the Old Ones will have infused many of their followers with their powers, but that should still be a finite amount, much less than we would otherwise face. I truly doubt that everything we have done has been accomplished without their knowledge. So the temporal rite will make what we must face manageable. But strike hard, and move on to the next target as soon as you are able, would be my advice.

5) The temporal pillars were (will be?) created, or at least captured / taken by Myrion and hidden away. Until we recently went and retrieved them. You would need to speak with him to learn more.

6) I believe the Old Ones can be harmed but the daggers, or certain other things that we possess, are required to kill them. This is something I await further confirmation on from my parents, and will confirm when I hear back.

7) I have just received a little more information on the rituals. Yes, these rituals would save the planes from destruction, and where viable greatly influence the thousands of non combatant people that reside on these worlds to the worship of whichever deity or dragon is the focus of each ritual.

It will be for each group to decide whether they have the time and resources to save each plane when they destroy the old ones. But to do so will require a large and "significant" ritual performed, that involves all members of the group, uses significant personal resources / sacrifices and is properly directed at a suitable deity / dragon / equivalent. I have objects of great value to myself and my family that would suffice for such a sacrifice. So if time allows, and the group permits, I will endeavour to see that we save the worlds that we can. But in the end the priority has to be the success of the mission, and these rituals could be a distraction from that. It may be as a last resort that we transport groups and do the rituals at the end of the day if time allows, but that could be problematic to do for many reasons.

The destruction of the Old Ones is required. If the planes can be saved, and turned from their path of war with Labyrinthia, then this should be done in my opinion. This is likely far more possible for some worlds than others. And there is a very good chance those with more...political sway than I may forbid such anyway.

I would suggest if it is your groups intent to try and save these planes, you have everything ready before you set out. The ritual written out for each participant. The object(s) of true value and significance you intend to sacrifice chosen and ready. And all ritual paraphenalia ready to be unpacked and used at speed when the opportunity presents.

I would also suggest when we have the list of worlds that each group is to attack, you start with the worlds you are less interested in saving. So that you can better judge how your group are doing as you approach those worlds you would like to expend the effort on saving, should time allow. For those who do not already have the information, this is the brief description of each world. Those I have highlighted are the worlds that are linked to, or ruled by Bi'Lar and Elzabeth. Without those two we would never have achieved what we have so far. They have made unthinkable sacrifices that this disaster might be averted. If there were any worlds I would ask that we save, these would top my personal list. And there is another, more pragmatic reason. I believe Bi'Lar and Elzabeth could single handedly destroy at least one Old One each themselves. Which at the end of the day might turn failure into success. I intend to speak with them and try to persuade them to do so. But it is much more likely they will consider this if they know we are making the effort to save what worlds we can.

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Northula:- Ruled over by Sinsaniam,

The largest and most heavily defended, utterly devoted to Sinsaniam. Many of the very best people from dozens of planes now call this home as their world has been destroyed. This has already been converted to target Sirac.

Arulia:- Ruled over by Bi’lak

The phoenix people have 10 warrior families utterly devoted to protecting the rituals. If Bi’lak was to join Sirac and Elsabeth him and his forces could hold two rituals once claimed.


Insorta:- – Ruled over by Upothath

Uporthath and his warriors have dedicated themselves to Sinsaniam and his goals, They have already converted their ritual to target Sirac on Sinsaniam’s orders.

Mortopia:- Ruled over by Tsutep

Tsutep, is following the letter of the oath and as such has not converted the ritual to focus on Sirac and it remains focussed on the Throne.

The Wylds:- Ruled over Rotur

Rotur has decided that Sinsaniam is on the winning side and has therefore converted the ritual focus on his plane to attack Sirac.

Rid’din:- Ruled over by Torquin

I believe she is in love with Sinsaniam and has therefore already changed her ritual focus to target Sirac.

Sincerity:- Ruled over by Elsabeth

There are 14 other planes dedicated to the ritual these are:-

Alaris:- Under the sway of Sinsaniam, an arid planet very dry much like the deserts of Ishma everything here tries to kill you.

Armand:- They like Bi’lak but are afraid of the standing armies, a plane pretty similar to Primus made up of various land masses and seas.

Hecate:- A world of dark forests and strange animals who see Rotur as the great god of war.

Jezebeth:- Contains the tower of Torthia, Jezebeth is home to dark faceless beings. They follow Torquin

Kasdeya:- Under the sway of Sinsaniam, a water planet with floating islands the rock here is extremely light and of a honeycomb structure filled with a lighter than air naturally forming gas. the air is dense and thick and so some islands float on the water and some in the air.

Kok-Lir:- A world covered in ice and large bear like beasts, abominable snowmen etc

Lamashtu:- A scorched world it is really hot all the time a great deal of the people live underground or specially built homes built from volcanic rock on the surface that absorbs the heat. Going out during the day is very difficult.

Lamia:- A plane predominately owned covered by demons, it is unpleasant to say the least.

Lezabel:- A planet of mountains and volcanoes, a hard environment they worship Torquin and would die for her before they would die for the cause.

Lilitu:- A plane of fire and light, they believe that Bi’lak is the embodiment of the light. He is worshipped here as the god of light and life.

Nimune:- A very odd plane, with creatures not seen anywhere else they look like giant lizards and roam the lush forests, the people here are somewhat primitive and dress in simple furs and use simple tools made of wood and stone. Rotur is popular here.

Prosperine:- A merchant plane that have discovered lots of Mittlenacht paths and trade regularly with other planes they support the Council of Renewal by helping to supply the worlds with the food and building materials they want.

Qarinah:- A plane made of smooth glass with strange creatures and plants that are all crystalline in structure. They believe that Elsabeth is the one true light and that one day her light will shine forth and flood their plane with colour.

Yuki Onna:- A plane of peace and light, they look up to Elsabeth
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post Oct 5 2022, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(Netheril @ Oct 5 2022, 04:01 PM) *
It will be for each group to decide whether they have the time and resources to save each plane when they destroy the old ones.


Errr you what now? how is that a thing... aren't you a hero? how can we be deciding on the hoof if we are going to save a whole plane... As man in charge (I assume you get a hat that will likely not look as nice as mine... but it probably says... "Man in Charge" on it) shouldn't you be deciding which rituals need to be done to save the worlds...

I mean I would have been thinking that, that was your job as Man in Charge

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I is not following all dis chit chat but I is hearing dat we is making der sacrifices to save der planes. I has thought about dis and is willing to sacrifice a goat or even a Kow to help save der planes. I has talked to der 'erds about dis and dey is not 'appy 'bout it but dey will do wot i is telling dem. So looks like we is gravy for dat bit at least.

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post Oct 5 2022, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Patch @ Oct 5 2022, 04:44 PM) *
Errr you what now? how is that a thing... aren't you a hero? how can we be deciding on the hoof if we are going to save a whole plane... As man in charge (I assume you get a hat that will likely not look as nice as mine... but it probably says... "Man in Charge" on it) shouldn't you be deciding which rituals need to be done to save the worlds...

I mean I would have been thinking that, that was your job as Man in Charge

Vrere
(I'm here with Da'Karte... he said something about numbers and what not... sounds silly)


No. I am not the "man in charge".

If I were it is likely our path would have been somewhat different.

I am merely the fool who gets shouted at, blamed for everything and anything, whilst doing his utmost to ensure we do the best we can within the parameters of what is actually achievable.

The above is more tongue in cheek than it perhaps reads, I am content with my role, and believe I am doing what I can to ensure the best possible outcome.

The questions you raise are questions that have been raised, and squashed, multiple times over the last year. It is not a topic I particularly want to re-visit.

But as briefly as I can. The worlds in question are all dedicated to untethering Labyrinthia. And to that end have effectively declared war on us. Have embarked on a plan, centuries in preparation, that if it had been successful would have resulted in the destruction of the throne of glass. Would have cost thousands of lives. And caused untold harm to the entire exostance. Without ever talking to us or seeking more peaceful solutions first.

That is one view of what has transpired anyway. And holds much truth. As such my mother's nature is now in the ascendancy. This is war. And if necessary to protect my home; the people of Labyrinthia; to protect and ensure stability for the Exostance, I will do what I must.

At the same time, I will save as many of these worlds as I can, so long as it does not endanger our overall mission.

And when this is all done, I will mourn for what I had to do. Make any recompense I can. And I will seek to find a path to make sure this does not happen again. I thought I had discovered one, and was willing to sacrifice all that I am for that result. I was wrong that time, but I am hopeful that in time other paths may open, other opportunities present themselves.

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post Oct 5 2022, 05:24 PM
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It wont be possible to know the list of worlds until the morning when we gather. Due to the chaos of the temporal rites, we wont know until then which worlds are empowered and which are weakened.

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post Oct 6 2022, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Netheril @ Oct 5 2022, 05:38 PM) *
At the same time, I will save as many of these worlds as I can, so long as it does not endanger our overall mission.

Sirac


If I were in charge, and I am not because my hat does not say "Person in Charge" on it, then I would probably make up a chart with some sticky bits of paper on it...

Worlds we absolutely MUST save could have a little gold star...
Worlds we probably should save would have a little silver star... (aww pretty)
Worlds we will get to when we have the time would have a little bronze star...
Worlds that we are probably best off without would have a little black dot...

That way everyone knows the plan and mercenaries love a good plan... because they tend to respect strength and clarity, if you leave them to themselves you get lots of ego's and opinions... and not a lot of doing things.

I have tried this in the past but struggle with the sticky paper, I ended up using telekinetic powers to hold the stars on my "doing the chores" chart... but every time I left the room and came back in again they were all on the floor... I suspect it was likely the actions of Robert Rare, Master Criminal... but it's hard to be sure...

Oh! Oh! maybe if you got a scout to dry out some of those sticky potions they rub on cuts and bruises and then stuck that to the back of your paper they would stick to the chart... that's a great idea... I could have as much money as that halfblack chap... Vrere's sticky stars for sticky stuff!

Still I would say whoever is in charge should work out a list and I will try and see if I can bring sticky stars! (or you could just number them 1-4... but STARS!!)

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post Oct 7 2022, 01:44 PM
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Some more information to share, some of quite significant import:

Regarding the ritual to save worlds from their own destruction, and destroying much in their vicinity

Firstly, Vrere, in a missive above I marked in bold 6 worlds that would top my personal list for saving. And that I believe there are very good reasons to prioritise.

But for me, personally, I would rather save almost all the worlds. I am not going to pick and choose any further than I have already done. All gathering are heroes, who will be putting their lives on the line to protect Labyrinthia. And, if they so choose, to save worlds that have seen us as enemies for centuries. Again, I believe this is the right thing to do IF it does not jeopardise the main mission. But I cannot enforce those beliefs on anyone, I can only lay out the facts and give people the choice.

So, for the ritual to save a world after slaying the Old One Child at its heart. The more impressive the ritual, the less significant the sacrifice that will be required to focus the ritual successfully. And vice versa of course. Divinations on what will and wont suffice beyond that can likely only be made in sight of the ritual chamber where the heart was slain. As said previously, the sacrifice must be indicative of a faith / dragon or the like, that can replace what is lost when the Old One is slain. And will have significant impact on the people, and future of that world. It is certainly a viable option for a suitable mercenary (devout follower of a god or dragon, etc) to stand as sacrifice in the ritual, and sacrifice a spoke of their vitae.

It is my intent once all knowledge is gathered and we are a bit closer, to create a separate chamber for those who wish to save worlds to see all the information on how to do so in one place. And perhaps make their plans for each group.

Trog, the sacrifice you speak of is a meaningful one for you, I know. But I doubt that alone it will suffice, as it does not draw the attention of a specific God, Dragon or similar.

Regarding the daggers needed to slay the old ones

As said elsewhere, Lord Jesiah has the majority of these. But for them to be able to harm / slay an Old One, they need to be activated. This involves a simple and quite swift ritual. That's the good news. The bad news is that this ritual struck me dead one of the times I attempted it. I say this so that all understand it can be quite dangerous. My death was due to needing to perform the ritual in a time and place of great danger, where my allies were fighting for their lives, and so I could not take my time or accept failure.

So, what is needed to awaken a dagger, is cutting yourself and willing the ritual to begin, and seeking to bond to the dagger. Each time you do so, the dagger will either accept or reject your claim. Each rejection hurts. And every rejection hurts, growing exponentially in how much it hurts. These are...chaotic objects. It could be that you are lucky, and the dagger accepts you almost immediately, with very little harm done. Or, as was the case for me, I was very unlucky and the rejection became so severe I could not withstand the damage done.

Do anything to mitigate or prevent the damage and the ritual fails. Healing in between each attempt is allowed. And you can always walk away and allow someone else to attempt it if the risk grows too much for you. The good news is I had to do the ritual multiple times to awaken just one dagger, but due to successful missions by my family, only one success will now be needed.

To properly use the dagger, even though they are the possessions of Lord Jesiah, the wielder borrowing the dagger must attune to it in this fashion.

And the daggers must strike the final blow(s) or be used to destroy one of the shells of the Old One they seek to slay. So others can harm, the dagger is what will finish the job.

The daggers are also often needed to gain access to certain sealed towers / sites on the various worlds, so it really will be essential for one person (at least!) from each group to awaken one.

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post Oct 7 2022, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Netheril @ Oct 7 2022, 02:44 PM) *
Regarding the ritual to save worlds from their own destruction, and destroying much in their vicinity


Sirac, Thank you,

I have perhaps one additional question, my people do not have a god, indeed we actively oppose the closest deity of our race, and I personally exist beyond the sight of your dragons. Can these rituals be dedicated to an ideal? in short can they be dedicated to something that does not possess a deific personification? I follow the teachings of an individual called the Enlightened One, they teach a centered, balanced and considered world view, where action is tempered by consideration, and loyalty to ones blood and chosen family is a key tenant of an individual existence.

Can the ritual be conducted to a code such as the Enlightened Philosophy or the Jade code for example? or must there be a true deific personification for it to work?

(Upon writing I realise that I lack certainty as to weather the Jade Emperor is a personification of the Jade code, should they be so then I offer sincere apologies to those who accept the Jade code's tenants, it is not my intention to offend, indeed quite the opposite.)

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post Oct 7 2022, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Patch @ Oct 7 2022, 03:13 PM) *
Sirac, Thank you,

I have perhaps one additional question, my people do not have a god, indeed we actively oppose the closest deity of our race, and I personally exist beyond the sight of your dragons. Can these rituals be dedicated to an ideal? in short can they be dedicated to something that does not possess a deific personification? I follow the teachings of an individual called the Enlightened One, they teach a centered, balanced and considered world view, where action is tempered by consideration, and loyalty to ones blood and chosen family is a key tenant of an individual existence.

Can the ritual be conducted to a code such as the Enlightened Philosophy or the Jade code for example? or must there be a true deific personification for it to work?

(Upon writing I realise that I lack certainty as to weather the Jade Emperor is a personification of the Jade code, should they be so then I offer sincere apologies to those who accept the Jade code's tenants, it is not my intention to offend, indeed quite the opposite.)

Da'Karte


Based on the concept that belief defines reality, and the fact you hold beliefs you are so passionate about, and devoted to, I would be very...surprised if you would not be able to direct the ritual, should you provide a suitable sacrifice representing that belief.

But obtaining further information will need you to be there in person. I doubt very much you will have wasted your time if you make all the preparations in advance that you are able to.

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post Oct 14 2022, 12:56 PM
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Sirac, or indeed someone else who may know...

If I am making the correct assumptions, you have listed a number of creatures that are either "Gods" or beings of enough power to command the respect of and therefore "rule" a number of plains.

Gods, have natures and they are "about" somethings. could you please detail the natures of the following beings.

Sinsaniam
Bi’lak
Elsabeth
Upothath
Tsutep
Rotur
Torquin

I ask as I feel it is likely that this will allow us all to assess the type of beings we are dealing with, and thus extrapolate more about the nature of the individuals who worship them.

My Thanks

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