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Pants
Some people may know but the Empire is at war with the forces of Myron should this not be better known about? Should it not be impacting dungeons? Is this time for some great uber plot within the LRP world?
Carlo
QUOTE(Pants @ Jul 22 2009, 08:27 AM) *
Some people may know but the Empire is at war with the forces of Myron should this not be better known about? Should it not be impacting dungeons? Is this time for some great uber plot within the LRP world?


I have no idea who/what Myron is at all!

Carlo
Bruno
Just taking a stab in the dark here, but wouldn't this be something the plot team should have a go at driving? As otherwise it exists only in Alan Morgan's distant and disconnected consciousness?

Weemyron and Eemyron Carlo, ring any bells? They've been "on the map" forever if I recall correctly! They were always special.
Carlo
QUOTE(Bruno @ Jul 22 2009, 08:53 AM) *
Just taking a stab in the dark here, but wouldn't this be something the plot team should have a go at driving? As otherwise it exists only in Alan Morgan's distant and disconnected consciousness?

Weemyron and Eemyron Carlo, ring any bells? They've been "on the map" forever if I recall correctly! They were always special.


Oh right. I always ignored those places on account of them having silly names. How can you start a place name with Wee, and say it with a serious face I don't know...

Carlo
Pants
Indeed just wondered if it is being picked up. Joe has bagged me to ref in Sept and wondered if I should include this plot in the dungeon.
Rob
QUOTE(Pants @ Jul 22 2009, 09:40 AM) *
Indeed just wondered if it is being picked up. Joe has bagged me to ref in Sept and wondered if I should include this plot in the dungeon.



Feel free Pants - if you can get stuff from Alan smile.gif

Rob
Pants
Ah ha! ;-)
DanM
Very little of anything seems to have filtered back to LRP

Be nice to hear more of what is going on
Stuart
Put a turn in as Baiter to go have a look perhaps?

/poke

Stuart
DanM
QUOTE(Stuart @ Jul 22 2009, 05:12 PM) *
Put a turn in as Baiter to go have a look perhaps?

/poke

Stuart


Well I could do that

Or I could do something I might WANT to do as Baiter
I started playing Baiter precisely so I could do whatever I wanted, not what a city council, senate etc etc wanted

I think we're still missing the information needed from Heroes for LRP.

It still feels like Heroes is the gameworld, and LRP just interacts with it sometimes these days
Jan
QUOTE(DanM @ Jul 22 2009, 06:43 PM) *
I think we're still missing the information needed from Heroes for LRP.


/agree with that bit of what Dan said

Something as monumentous as an invasion inside the Empire itself, or the imminent fiscal collapse of the Grull system really should warrant some kind of presence within the live game world. Is there any chance of a return to a more regular companion? perhaps a warning system which can be posted online which lists the top 3 threats to the Empire's peace so characters dont look around surprised when they find out the basis of their understanding has been fundementally changed. 3 things would be enough to convey a feel, and enough so it can be updated regularly, just a sentence on each.

I would offer to do it myself, but that would probably be treading on about half a dozen peoples toes.
Gordon
QUOTE(DanM @ Jul 22 2009, 06:43 PM) *
It still feels like Heroes is the gameworld, and LRP just interacts with it sometimes these days


You'd be surprised how little attention some people and players can pay to waht is happening around them.

Many clues, plots, threads, connections are simply missed, ignored or forgotten about.

Information from events often doesn't pass through to other mercenaries to whom it may mean something or can connect more dots and realise where the web starts and finishes.

The game world is huge. Even if you have a full caves over a weekend, running eight adventures each one of those can be in a different city, territory, nation and still leave most of it untouched, it could be weeks or even months before another group of mercenaries return to that place and what has happened in the intervening six months could mean thing are either very different or long forgotten.

Things have happened, are happening and will happen.

Just not everything has a neon sign or visible ritual strike to highlight them when they do.

I'd encourage mercenaries to talk more amongst themselves, that is your biggest source of information you will ever have.
Bruno
On the other hand, if the Empire is at war this info should be generally available. Etc.
ethuil
I seem to remember, though I could be imagining this, playing a monster part where we did everything in the name of Myron (war cries, verbals etc) but not knowing anything about it beyond that.
Gordon
QUOTE(Bruno @ Jul 22 2009, 09:58 PM) *
On the other hand, if the Empire is at war this info should be generally available. Etc.


You might think so...but basically what Rob said.
BBB
QUOTE(Bruno @ Jul 22 2009, 09:58 PM) *
On the other hand, if the Empire is at war this info should be generally available. Etc.


Technically the Empire is not at war.

Currently the territories of Alguz ~ formerly part of the Empire and who's status is somewhat in dispute following the Actions of certain luminaries in the Church of Talthar ~ is under direct threat from the forces of Myron.

An army of Myron is most likely leaving the territories of Alguz and entering proper Imperial soil.

At this time no Imperial Forces have been attacked or harmed.

The Senate is trying to resolve the issue of the threat simultaneously to the political and supernatural ramifications of what the Church of Talthar has done to Alguz which is creating a whole nest of problems with organsing a united defence. Currently a few Imperial Forces are in Alguz but have been unable to engage the Myronese forces in combat.

I'm pretty sure that as soon as something concrete is sorted that the appropriate people (no doubt the Senate) will make an announcement to the populace in general. Rmember in a fantasy world information doesn't actually travel at the speed of Internet and it takes OOC time for the game to reach the stage where IC pronouncements can be made.

Regards the Grull I think Anath would probably, in his best Jim Hacker voice, say somethng like:

"You may have heard rumours concerning the strength of the Imperial Economy. The Grull is as safe and strong as is has been this past decade. That is not to say that there aren't some issues but your grull is worth just as much as it always has been and The Senate, in conjunction with the Empire's Merchants, are working together to ensure business as usual. Please Carry On Adventuring* and spending your grulls as you always have..."

BBB

*Hmm, a new episode in the old fanchise perchance? wink.gif
AndrewBucknell
Myronese advanced forces captured and destroyed the trade town supported by the fortress of Hells Cauldron (also destroyed) along with the troops sationed there. The 101st and Drago's personal honour guard forced the myronese from the town and the Keys Lancers destroyed them when they reached open ground.

JulianW
QUOTE(BBB @ Jul 22 2009, 11:22 PM) *
Technically the Empire is not at war.



Regards the Grull I think Anath would probably, in his best Jim Hacker voice, say somethng like:

"You may have heard rumours concerning the strength of the Imperial Economy. The Grull is as safe and strong as is has been this past decade. That is not to say that there aren't some issues but your grull is worth just as much as it always has been and The Senate, in conjunction with the Empire's Merchants, are working together to ensure business as usual. Please Carry On Adventuring* and spending your grulls as you always have..."

BBB

*Hmm, a new episode in the old fanchise perchance? wink.gif


Or perhaps -
"It does not mean that the grull here in Labyrinthia, in your pocket or purse or in your bank, has been devalued" ?

Julian
Jasper
QUOTE(JulianW @ Jul 23 2009, 09:53 AM) *
Or perhaps -
"It does not mean that the grull here in Labyrinthia, in your pocket or purse or in your bank, has been devalued" ?

Julian



There has been a 0% rise in the value of the Grull?

J
BBB
QUOTE(Jasper @ Jul 23 2009, 10:10 AM) *
There has been a 0% rise in the value of the Grull?

J


Actually a 0.0% rise in the value of the Grull.

BBB
OxMatt
Is Labyrinthia overstretched East of Suez?

Matt
JustinC
BBB's wrong - Imperial land and citizens were harmed by this invading force.

Large numbers of elves loyal to the Empire have been hunted down and killed by the demons, and my (imperially funded) warband got a kicking.

Just FYI.

JC
Rob
QUOTE(ethuil @ Jul 22 2009, 10:03 PM) *
I seem to remember, though I could be imagining this, playing a monster part where we did everything in the name of Myron (war cries, verbals etc) but not knowing anything about it beyond that.


Firstly - s I am sure you did - the important thing for plot is you dont NEED to know why

Secondly the referee (If its the event I think it was) had no idea either - devaluing the point behind it!

I think Dan is right in many ways however:

It sort of only just happened

In a massive mainly "middle ages" world word travels slowly. As suck lots of PCs know about it (mainly the ones in HotE) so it is more than possible they could have spread the word

Now this is a HotE invasion not a LRP invasion (yes there does have to be a difference) In the same way that Thor (20 year old character, 10 year + old HotE character) still needs an army to win in HotE there is no point sending 12 1500 point mercenaries to fight the invasion.

Yes the odd dungeon could encounter the odd warband of demons - but then people start casting comms and similar and that all gets a bit "difficult"

IMO what WOULD be good (and it is actually in hand believe it or not) is to have role play encounters and similar with rumour and information about what goes on in the Empire - so for example you could have learnt about this invasion on a Max 250 from a trader who was fleeing Alguz. This is obviously restricted by information flow - often there is a lag between plot being invented by Alan and being useable by reffs / plot team.

The only time specific HotE plots are going to get dealt with in LRP is when they get specifically organised and briefs go to reffs from Alan. This will more foten than not be player solicited.

I am sure none of the above helps at all!

Rob
Plot Team
ethuil
From what I remember we as monsters didn't mind but the party began going "who the hell is Myron?" which I imagine was the desired effect wink.gif
BBB
QUOTE(JustinC @ Jul 24 2009, 01:04 PM) *
BBB's wrong - Imperial land and citizens were harmed by this invading force.

Large numbers of elves loyal to the Empire have been hunted down and killed by the demons, and my (imperially funded) warband got a kicking.

Just FYI.

JC


Actually JC re-read what I wrote. I made no mention of Imperial Citizens wink.gif

BBB
Alan23
I send headlines of noticeable events in each area, and have done for quite a while to Andy when I send in the charging each month. So it doesn't quite just exist in my head. And there are an awful lot of people and character's in HotE. The two are firmly linked as nigh on everything derives from character action in some fashion.

If expansion is needed it can be so requested. If a ref wants specific information he can ask and will receive, and has been able to for many years. It works both ways - the CMT are very good at forwarding CPs, an event near a miracle after the opposite was true under the previous owner.
Jan
QUOTE(Alan23 @ Jul 24 2009, 04:40 PM) *
I send headlines of noticeable events in each area, and have done for quite a while to Andy when I send in the charging each month. So it doesn't quite just exist in my head. And there are an awful lot of people and character's in HotE. The two are firmly linked as nigh on everything derives from character action in some fashion.


Alan
That list of headlines sounds like exactly the kind of thing which would help integrate more fringe LRPers. Good stuff! smile.gif


Rob
I don't think people are saying that LRP should be able to solve the problems, just that there should be a method for which once a quarter, once a month style players can get a rough feel of the state of the empire, without having to read the huge amounts of very interesting, but quite time consuming stuff on the 4 or more forums which cater for players. Not a nag, not a poke at the plot team smile.gif
Alan23
QUOTE(Jan @ Jul 24 2009, 04:44 PM) *
Alan
That list of headlines sounds like exactly the kind of thing which would help integrate more fringe LRPers. Good stuff! smile.gif


They are very OOC, bullet notes in effect that aren't flavourful, but bullet points. Useful I'm sure for what they are used for, but they're not 'news' per se.
Jan
QUOTE(Alan23 @ Jul 24 2009, 04:53 PM) *
They are very OOC, bullet notes in effect that aren't flavourful, but bullet points. Useful I'm sure for what they are used for, but they're not 'news' per se.


On a seperate post I am pushing for 3 'tabloid' style headlines, nothing more, no details - they need to play HotE or read the various forums for that. Hence being chuffed you already had it in hand from your end biggrin.gif
saracentruth
Hope you don't mind the intrustion, but I noticed the other day that "skeletonhunter" is talking about a monthly digest called the 'Monthly Empire'. Sounds like as good a way as any to get information across...

OK, going back into my hole now...

smile.gif
DanM
QUOTE(Alan23 @ Jul 24 2009, 04:53 PM) *
They are very OOC, bullet notes in effect that aren't flavourful, but bullet points. Useful I'm sure for what they are used for, but they're not 'news' per se.


So where do these actually end up after you send them?
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