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SiDeards
Hi all

Wanting to gauge interest to see if there is any mileage in starting up a Pro Imperial Evil Political guild, with the ethos being around "Getting the job done for the safety of the empire with whatever means necessary" kinda thing.

Kinda members would be Pro Imperial types like Church of Iron and Empire members and other Evil Pro Empire types.

The world shouldn't just be for those who radiate light and goodness smile.gif sometimes you need to murder that far off ruler to ensure safety for the rest of the Empire etc smile.gif
Nibs
"Getting the job done for the safety of the empire with whatever means necessary"

The very definition of my LN, fanatically pro-Empire mystic Imperial Seer (best described by Lee as "Lawful Imperial"). Surely "whatever means necessary" includes giving money to the poor, saving the baby, doing the "good" thing, as well as purging the undesired, killing the baby that will turn into the new evillest of evils, and doing the "evil" thing?

Obviously this is your thing, but evil feels somehow more limiting than neutral.
BBB
Imperial Dagger: When the "Goods Guys" just can't get the job done Imperial Dagger is ready to serve loyal members of the Empire to the fullest extent of the law without recourse to moral quanderies.

Imperial Dagger: For all your shadowy (but legal) needs.

wink.gif

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Ikwos
QUOTE(SiDeards @ Sep 5 2017, 01:19 PM) *
Hi all

Wanting to gauge interest to see if there is any mileage in starting up a Pro Imperial Evil Political guild, with the ethos being around "Getting the job done for the safety of the empire with whatever means necessary" kinda thing.

Kinda members would be Pro Imperial types like Church of Iron and Empire members and other Evil Pro Empire types.

The world shouldn't just be for those who radiate light and goodness smile.gif sometimes you need to murder that far off ruler to ensure safety for the rest of the Empire etc smile.gif


I was just saying...

As a general note, there doesn't seem to be any Evil Social Guilds, is there a reason for this? KOTL seem far to good intetioned for my liking... Has anyone thought about Starting the Guild of Dirty Dooer's?! [/i] ph34r.gif Mwhohaa!

I would be interested in helping out...

Si.
BBB
QUOTE(Ikwos @ Sep 5 2017, 01:39 PM) *
I was just saying...

As a general note, there doesn't seem to be any Evil Social Guilds, is there a reason for this? KOTL seem far to good intetioned for my liking... Has anyone thought about Starting the Guild of Dirty Dooer's?! [/i] ph34r.gif Mwhohaa!

I would be interested in helping out...

Si.


We're just lacking in any decent social guilds to compete with KotL really... (And I don't just mean statwise but that is part of it)

But that's another discussion on the current state of the Guild System tongue.gif

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Blackmoor
QUOTE(BBB @ Sep 5 2017, 01:36 PM) *
Imperial Dagger: When the "Goods Guys" just can't get the job done Imperial Dagger is ready to serve loyal members of the Empire to the fullest extent of the law without recourse to moral quanderies.

Imperial Dagger: For all your shadowy (but legal) needs.

wink.gif

BBB


I like it …

Symbol: Dagger / Death Card / Ace of Spades

“The fate of the Empire is too important to leave it in the hands of some goody-two-shoes … “

The cliché that there is "No honour among evil" is false. Always keep his word of honour and uphold any bargains.
Code of ethics (perhaps twisted ethics by the standards of good). Achieve goals through force, power, and intimidation.
Live to well defined terms, whether anyone else likes it or not. Rewards loyalty punishes treachery with a swift, merciful death.

Some sort of brutal deluxe, get the ugly stuff done crew ...
SiDeards
Sounds like there could be interest, Social would also work to be fair.

Definitely something that would benefit the current go to o pretty much ending up in KOTL, not that KOTL is bad at all, its a great guild, but it would be nice to have other options for roleplay etc.
Ikwos
The cliché that there is "No honour among evil" is false. Always keep his word of honour and uphold any bargains.
Code of ethics (perhaps twisted ethics by the standards of good). Achieve goals through force, power, and intimidation.
Live to well defined terms, whether anyone else likes it or not. Rewards loyalty punishes treachery with a swift, merciful death.

Some sort of brutal deluxe, get the ugly stuff done crew ...
[/quote]

Sounds like you stole the above from the morning mantra Credit Suisse make you perform before before sailing 'The Sea's of High Finance!'

We stole a mediocre result from the Jaws of Victory... and much fun was had by all... the dearth of half decent options for evilly aligned chars could be easilysorted and sorted out quicker if we infiltrated KOTL and performed a 'coup d'etat!'

Orlock
Sign me up !
Ikwos
QUOTE(SiDeards @ Sep 5 2017, 01:19 PM) *
Hi all

Wanting to gauge interest to see if there is any mileage in starting up a Pro Imperial Evil Political guild, with the ethos being around "Getting the job done for the safety of the empire with whatever means necessary" kinda thing.

Kinda members would be Pro Imperial types like Church of Iron and Empire members and other Evil Pro Empire types.

The world shouldn't just be for those who radiate light and goodness smile.gif sometimes you need to murder that far off ruler to ensure safety for the rest of the Empire etc smile.gif


How about the guild name 'Black Op's!'
isbiraven
I have soooo many characters that would fit this idea...
Martinj
QUOTE(Ikwos @ Sep 5 2017, 01:39 PM) *
I was just saying...

As a general note, there doesn't seem to be any Evil Social Guilds, is there a reason for this? KOTL seem far to good intetioned for my liking... Has anyone thought about Starting the Guild of Dirty Dooer's?! [/i] ph34r.gif Mwhohaa!

I would be interested in helping out...

Si.


Maybe consider the Blunt Club as a social guild? We take all types, no goodly style restrictions and have plenty of evil types. Lots of pro imperial types are members - we even have a couple of CC contracts about it (we're by appointment to the Empress) and as the guildhead I'm a proper pro imperial type who uses spirits of all flavours. Plus, we're a drinking club smile.gif

If you're more interested in stats, then 6/2 that stacks with you warrior guild, extra lvl of resistance, free potions, comms, cool toasts and a no verbal stealth aren't bad smile.gif
Ikwos
QUOTE(isbiraven @ Sep 5 2017, 05:17 PM) *
I have soooo many characters that would fit this idea...


I bet you have!!! We met one on Sunday! He so enjoyed saying the words on Sunday! smile.gif
Ikwos
QUOTE(Martinj @ Sep 5 2017, 05:37 PM) *
Maybe consider the Blunt Club as a social guild? We take all types, no goodly style restrictions and have plenty of evil types. Lots of pro imperial types are members - we even have a couple of CC contracts about it (we're by appointment to the Empress) and as the guildhead I'm a proper pro imperial type who uses spirits of all flavours. Plus, we're a drinking club smile.gif

If you're more interested in stats, then 6/2 that stacks with you warrior guild, extra lvl of resistance, free potions, comms, cool toasts and a no verbal stealth aren't bad smile.gif


Thank you Martin,

Didn't see precisely those benefits when i read the almanac I will look again... :0)
Martinj
It's hidden away - gives the tendency Local Lad and the benefits of Herbal Infusion smile.gif
BBB
QUOTE(Martinj @ Sep 5 2017, 05:37 PM) *
Maybe consider the Blunt Club as a social guild? We take all types, no goodly style restrictions and have plenty of evil types. Lots of pro imperial types are members - we even have a couple of CC contracts about it (we're by appointment to the Empress) and as the guildhead I'm a proper pro imperial type who uses spirits of all flavours. Plus, we're a drinking club smile.gif

If you're more interested in stats, then 6/2 that stacks with you warrior guild, extra lvl of resistance, free potions, comms, cool toasts and a no verbal stealth aren't bad smile.gif


Oddly it doesn't fit the roleplay for any of my characters, except my noble, who it fits to a tee but can't join because he's a Yeoman tongue.gif

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Fionamullin
I dabble in the club but am kotl for the last far too long as my noble witch. Am open to either next time around, maybe. 🙂
Blackmoor
QUOTE(SiDeards @ Sep 5 2017, 02:28 PM) *
Sounds like there could be interest, Social would also work to be fair.

Definitely something that would benefit the current go to o pretty much ending up in KOTL, not that KOTL is bad at all, its a great guild, but it would be nice to have other options for roleplay etc.


So how do we start it then?

Could we combine with I+E specials?

Spin up both at the same time?

(Not familiar with guild rules)
Blackmoor
QUOTE(Blackmoor @ Sep 8 2017, 12:25 PM) *
So how do we start it then?

Could we combine with I+E specials?

Spin up both at the same time?

(Not familiar with guild rules)


Answering my own questions ... slow day biggrin.gif

Apparently only 6 people required on special to form a new guild.

With 12+ at the next I+E hoopla we could technically support both advancement of Church guild and creation of new Political guild !?!

Is this plausible? Can you double dip in such a flagrant manner?

Be rude not too if possible ... Imperial Daggers eh? ph34r.gif
isbiraven
If you doubled up you would not get anywhere near as much, deminishing returns and all that jive.

If you want to start the guild up in the new year, I would be happy to write a short story arc to cover a few dungeons to get it all empowered and up and running.

T.
Blackmoor
QUOTE(isbiraven @ Sep 8 2017, 04:31 PM) *
If you doubled up you would not get anywhere near as much, deminishing returns and all that jive.

If you want to start the guild up in the new year, I would be happy to write a short story arc to cover a few dungeons to get it all empowered and up and running.

T.


Ah, fair enough. Be cool to do in the new year then. For sure.
Ikwos
QUOTE(isbiraven @ Sep 8 2017, 04:31 PM) *
If you doubled up you would not get anywhere near as much, deminishing returns and all that jive.

If you want to start the guild up in the new year, I would be happy to write a short story arc to cover a few dungeons to get it all empowered and up and running.

T.


Could it be a political or social guild associated with the church of Iron & Empire?
isbiraven
It can be either tbh.... that would be up to whoever is going to be the one who starts it 😉
Ikwos
QUOTE(isbiraven @ Sep 8 2017, 06:41 PM) *
It can be either tbh.... that would be up to whoever is going to be the one who starts it 😉


Gotcha!

Good luck Si! 😂
dhurrell
QUOTE(Ikwos @ Sep 8 2017, 05:01 PM) *
Could it be a political or social guild associated with the church of Iron & Empire?


I'd be grateful for one that isn't linked to a specific church. I've a Tryst warrior who is pro imperial and would welcome a relevant social guild that doesn't pay homage to another master (no offence Mr Blunt)

I'd imagine a lot of other Evils out there who this would also cut out from the market, and for guild longevity you want a wider player base I'd think?

Dave H
isbiraven
I too would think it being its own seperate organisation would be better and appeal to a much wider player base... 😀
SiDeards
Looks like enough interest, Social Guild seems to be the most favourable option. How does a Max 750 as Startup sound? Sunday 22nd October has no dungeons booked either, any interest starting up in this date and this level?
isbiraven
If you want to do it sooner fill free... I did mention before that I am more than happy to ref for it next year as I am a bit hectic now until next feb.

T.
Orlock
QUOTE(SiDeards @ Sep 10 2017, 01:25 PM) *
Looks like enough interest, Social Guild seems to be the most favourable option. How does a Max 750 as Startup sound? Sunday 22nd October has no dungeons booked either, any interest starting up in this date and this level?


Yes please, and Emily as well... near Halloween too... how appropriate... huh.gif
dhurrell
QUOTE(SiDeards @ Sep 10 2017, 01:25 PM) *
Looks like enough interest, Social Guild seems to be the most favourable option. How does a Max 750 as Startup sound? Sunday 22nd October has no dungeons booked either, any interest starting up in this date and this level?


I'm 50:50 if I could do that day. If I can and others are keen would need a max 1k, so not too far too budge?

Dave H
dhurrell
QUOTE(isbiraven @ Sep 10 2017, 02:24 PM) *
If you want to do it sooner fill free... I did mention before that I am more than happy to ref for it next year as I am a bit hectic now until next feb.

T.


Although I'm not organising... How about both smile.gif
You're a legend, thanks for offering!

Dave H
Blackmoor
QUOTE(SiDeards @ Sep 10 2017, 01:25 PM) *
Looks like enough interest, Social Guild seems to be the most favourable option. How does a Max 750 as Startup sound? Sunday 22nd October has no dungeons booked either, any interest starting up in this date and this level?


I'm in ... shall we ellaborate the guild a bit more, ethos etc
SiDeards
I have a suggestion, we push this back until new year when Tony is able to Ref or participate, we have the Iron and Empire stuff to do right now to take us up til Xmas, after that we will have a break until BBB is ready to kick off again with more Iron and Empire dungeons, so we can start this up in between etc smile.gif
Blackmoor
QUOTE(SiDeards @ Sep 11 2017, 08:43 AM) *
I have a suggestion, we push this back until new year when Tony is able to Ref or participate, we have the Iron and Empire stuff to do right now to take us up til Xmas, after that we will have a break until BBB is ready to kick off again with more Iron and Empire dungeons, so we can start this up in between etc smile.gif


Yep, good idea ... the once a month schedule works well for me.
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