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CharleyL
So a fair few of you know I have a bear character, this is all fun and what not but recently I've felt a bit useless with a lot of encounters due to not having form of supernatural damage. I figured a good way to do this would be to turn into some sort of shamanic spirit bear but I am really useless at writing up non standards and am very limited on ideas due to not having a high points character so any suggestions would be much appreciated smile.gif

Charley
PaulM
1/ day - Embody the spirit of a bear for 5 Minutes I become purely spiritual and damage done is purely spiritual this lasts for 5minutes (Similliar to embody abishi/angel)

1/day - Gains Spiritual Claws for 5 minutes whilst I have spiritual claws may do spiritual/physical component damage with unarmed.
Naga
What have you got for 1-6th?
CharleyL
Some innate pac, base life as ggrutuck, some bears rages, my own version of flick of the wrist, stacking strength, 25% damage reduction which changes to fractional when in a rage.
Naga
QUOTE(CharleyL @ Sep 17 2014, 04:42 PM) *
Some innate pac, base life as ggrutuck, some bears rages, my own version of flick of the wrist, stacking strength, 25% damage reduction which changes to fractional when in a rage.




I would say you want to increase the 25% to become a perm fractional upgrade it to 1/3 and then post 6th 1/2fx

Add a spirit form

I would add some summon weapon innates , then post 6th from X innates of summon weapons now becomes perm empowered

Immune to magic? last hit spirit?
darkrule233
QUOTE(Naga @ Sep 17 2014, 04:45 PM) *
I would say you want to increase the 25% to become a perm fractional upgrade it to 1/3 and then post 6th 1/2fx

Add a spirit form

I would add some summon weapon innates , then post 6th from X innates of summon weapons now becomes perm empowered

Immune to magic? last hit spirit?

I agree with Sam.
Especially for a level 7+8 (which you can only get one of) you want to make it something special!
I'd definitely go for the perm empowered claws and the perm fractional reduction.
I think a spirit form would be cool but instead I'd go last hit/LTM is now spirit only (maybe make it evil only if you're willing to pay the few extra points).
Immune to magic is a nice one and would make sense with you being a spirit bear.

Basically, it's how much you want to spend smile.gif
Callum
CharleyL
Where exactly would I increase the 25%? Level 7/8 or as a one liner or as post 6th?

Also when writing these kind of things, is it as simple as say on the level 7 area of the MR just putting 'Full immunity to magic' Or is there some froopy/secret way to write it?
PaulM
In addition this costs a Multiclass slot.

7th Level:
From Perm 25% damage reductional from level ___ now becomes 1/3rd damage reduction when raging.
This maybe increased to 1/2 damage reduction Post 8th Table: Cost:

1/day - May spiritually empower club this is +0 spiritual and lasts 5minutes (__/__)
From buying 10 of these innates empower weapon is now a perm ability.

8th Level:
Live to Minus is now spirit damage only and may not have a limb severed unless done with spiritual damage.

1/day gains spirit form as per Priest this lasts 5minutes (__/__)
CharleyL
I like it a lot Paul! Very solid base to build from thanks biggrin.gif
dnsmantra
"Live to Minus is now spirit damage only and may not have a limb severed unless done with spiritual damage."

Change "limb" to "location", otherwise the important locations (your crits) can still be severed with normal damage.

Probably also worth mentioning that your 25% off = 1/4 off while raging, so it becomes 33% off while not raging & 1/3rd off while raging (just to provide clarity on what you have already).

Tweak the empower bit to "may empower a weapon" rather than a just a club, in case you need to use a sharp/different weapon for something. Probably just leave the line below as "from ___ innates this becomes @ will" (so Lee can write in the number of times you'd need to buy the base).

Huw
PaulM
Thank Sam I just wrote pretty much what he said just showed you how to word it over the two levels. wink.gif
CharleyL
Thanks for the general clarity there Huw, that's the kind of stuff I'd miss. I'm assuming embody angels are significantly better than spirit form? Or is it something that I can't have?
PaulM
Priests can only buy 1 embody Angel simply it gives spirits. I think you will be able to get more spirit forms passed.
dnsmantra
You'd probably get a 1/day "Embody Spirit Bear", as Embody Angel. You might then go for more "Bear/Angel Forms" as spirit forms and more "Angel Walks" as walk thru walls - i.e. break the bits down.

Huw
DanM
MC Spirit warrior?
duncanmatthias
QUOTE(DanM @ Sep 18 2014, 08:06 AM) *
MC Spirit warrior?


Lay believer, and devout believer?
CharleyL
QUOTE(DanM @ Sep 18 2014, 08:06 AM) *
MC Spirit warrior?


I see it from a roleplay perspective as more of a racial thing rather than a class.
miles
Your concern is 1-6th all physical then suddenly spiritual for 7/8th.

Go sp war etc and just role play it is sp bear powers, that way you get the bracket for spiritual powers and can use a sp weapon. Then 7/8 to complete you physical DR etc
DanM
QUOTE(CharleyL @ Sep 18 2014, 09:48 AM) *
I see it from a roleplay perspective as more of a racial thing rather than a class.


Does it matter where the abilities actually come from?
dnsmantra
QUOTE(miles @ Sep 18 2014, 09:57 AM) *
Your concern is 1-6th all physical then suddenly spiritual for 7/8th.


I don't think that's an issue tbh. There's plenty of people who have things like Primal Soul 1st - 6th (basically all physical) and then evolve that supernaturally in 7th & 8th. As long as it fits a theme.

Huw
cripple
QUOTE(CharleyL @ Sep 18 2014, 09:48 AM) *
I see it from a roleplay perspective as more of a racial thing rather than a class.


also aren't you brute?
cripple
id apply for some primal strikes... maybe even just go master at arms.

alternatively go for a hunter based multi class (similar to ranger to keep in warrior bracket)... put some tracking abilities in it, some physical comms to work out how to kill stuff.. then some slayers blows innates to kill froopy things.

then use your 7&8 multi race to get better damage reductions based on being a bear.
Martinj
Or 'Champion of the Bear Totem' - you're the guy who fights the enemies of the Great Bear Spirit. Some ideas:

Utilise Spiritual Weapons and Armour (only) of your alignment
Damage reduction vs pure spirit
Embody Bear Spirit (as embody angel/abishai - maybe swap some bits)
Spiritual Bear's Rage
Paw of Purity (as per Hand of Purity)
My claws are bigger than yours - take rockskin damage from purely spiritual claws/talons etc - or maybe your distancing means claws count as unarmed even when physrepped by weapons.
Spiritual stunning blows
Innates of turning your innate PAC or armour +0 spiritual
CharleyL
I have amassed a solid spreadsheet with ideas, really appreciate it guys! But Grant has made a fair point that I completely forgot. Why oh why did I buy Brute....
dnsmantra
Just get out of the brute restrictions (and/or the benefits if needed) in your m/r.

Huw
DanM
QUOTE(dnsmantra @ Sep 18 2014, 12:21 PM) *
Just get out of the brute restrictions (and/or the benefits if needed) in your m/r.

Huw


Smarter than the average Bear...

Possibly needs a pic-a-nic basket restriction
CharleyL
QUOTE(DanM @ Sep 18 2014, 12:30 PM) *
Smarter than the average Bear...

Possibly needs a pic-a-nic basket restriction


I do own a honey farm.....
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