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dhurrell
post Apr 3 2017, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(KatSables @ Apr 3 2017, 07:42 PM) *
For me it is simple Lord Naga. You disagreed with the Emperors wishes, I think you know what needs to be done, unless of cause I have missed the picture or aim of what we were to complete.

Neko Panama


That too would be my interpretation for an honourable conclusion to this matter.

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post Apr 3 2017, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(dhurrell @ Apr 3 2017, 08:17 PM) *
That too would be my interpretation for an honourable conclusion to this matter.

Masaru Tao Chai Talibah



Yes but we have already concluded that your a coward and not fit to hold your title or lead your clan.


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post Apr 3 2017, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(dhurrell @ Apr 3 2017, 08:17 PM) *
That too would be my interpretation for an honourable conclusion to this matter.

Masaru Tao Chai Talibah

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post Apr 3 2017, 07:38 PM
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Maybe I misheard you in the Dragons treasure horde maybe something whispered in my ear.

I accept your apology if you need to know any details behind my actions then just send me a private missive.

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post Apr 3 2017, 07:38 PM
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I welcome you to these halls Neko Panama.

I too echo your stance on this matter. When the wish of the emperor is undermined, there must be consequence.

What is the stance of The Emperor's Honor on this matter?


It is possible that I might have been persuaded otherwise, however that door closes when civil conversations turn to open insults.

I remind those of the council here that when this council was formed it was agreed by all that any who causes harm to another member, and that there would be consequence to this action also.

With honor,

Haiyū Yang-To
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post Apr 3 2017, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(Naga @ Apr 3 2017, 08:23 PM) *
Yes but we have already concluded that your a coward and not fit to hold your title or lead your clan.
Lord Naga


If calling me a coward is the best response you have to my reminder of how honour should dictate your actions you are a fool and worse; you are a danger to this land.

I challenge you to a duel to the death; to uphold my honour and that of the Emperor.

Let us agree the details directly with Woodrow Panama-sama before you embarrass yourself and your clan further.

Masaru Tao Chai Talibah
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post Apr 3 2017, 07:41 PM
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My stance is as always.

The true judge of a mans honour is himself.

Woodrow

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post Apr 3 2017, 07:45 PM
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Your Duel is accepted

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post Apr 3 2017, 08:45 PM
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Have you been insulted Yan-Toe?

Also are you saying the laws of the council come before the jade code?


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post Apr 3 2017, 09:04 PM
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Lord Naga,

I had asked you, in a civil manner to clarify your position on this matter, something important so that those that were not present can understand better as well as allow myself as Daimyo of the Jade Dragon decide which side we should stand on, and you have accused me of being "ignorant of the way the world actually works".

Unless you are saying that the world actually works with people in positions of political power making decisions without being certain of the stances of those involved - which I highly doubt - then your comment was false, and damaging to my reputation and the reputation of my ability to lead my clan.

Never did I state that the work of the Snake was integral to the Empire. You appear to have assumed that I have said that and retorted with an insult. What I was trying to ascertain was whether or not you, and the Snake as a clan, would be better suited to pursue your goals and orders as a clan apart from the council. Then, you would no longer feel bound by requirements of the council to hold a unified voice, and the rest of the council need not be at constant odds with you and your clan's interests.

Once again I fail to see where ignorance in the situation has arisen and caused you to comment on it.



With regards to your second comment, I have not, said anything of the sort. Both the code and our council's laws apply. Should anyone be forced to duel another within the council for their honor, we as a council could not stop it. However after such a duel was concluded the actions of engaging in a duel would then need to be addressed as per our agreements when the council was formed.


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Haiyū Yang-To
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post Apr 3 2017, 09:15 PM
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Yes I was saying that you don't seem to know how the world works. My comment was not false unless your calling me liar?

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post Apr 3 2017, 09:22 PM
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Lord Naga,

What gave you that impression? Asking a civil question on where the Snake stood on the talks and if the views were your own or that of your clan?
Merely talking is enough to warrant you throwing insults at me and my clan? Accusing me of ignorance is an insult.

I do not call you a liar. I call that you are wrong in your assumption of my ignorance. Furthermore I call your open assumption to be insulting to me and my clan.

Haiyū Yang-To
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post Apr 3 2017, 09:32 PM
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Well we cannot let a insult go unanswered.

Name your location and we can settle this with honor.

Or if you wish to use a tanto to regain your honor your welcome to follow Rikis example.

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post Apr 3 2017, 10:03 PM
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Indeed, we cannot. It is a shame you choose not to retract your words.

It seems that the Daimyo of the Snake is at odds with not one, but two of the council. It may be time to call a vote among the council to determine whether or not the Snake should be allowed to continue on it's way undeterred by the shackles of the council.

That would certainly resolve the issue of duelling within the clan.

Haiyū Yang-To
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post Apr 3 2017, 10:05 PM
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We will arrange the place for the duel.

Yes it's already being discussed I will add you to the private chambers in the morning

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post Apr 3 2017, 10:19 PM
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You that have thrown insults to all that disagree with you, and then at those who had no stance on the matter at all, and then demanded satisfaction by duelling in the full knowledge you would win in a duel of the sword over a wielder of words.

So be it. We shall make arrangements in the morning.

Haiyū Yang-To
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post Apr 3 2017, 10:23 PM
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The Emperor banned duelling for this crazy reason, and the second it was relented upon, the lords are all ready to stand in a line to kill each other.

What has become of the wonderful Jade Empire, the land which I love so much.

Please most honourable Emperor, intervene on this madness, before you must build your caste system back up from a pile of corpses!

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post Apr 3 2017, 10:31 PM
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No one here has openly insulted you Lord Naga. In return you appear to have tried to encourage people to find insult in your words?

I am unsure if this is your wish or not, to have a queue of people to Duel? I hope I am mistaken.

Ningyou Dansu

To add to this it was made clear that it was the emperors wish and not will.


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post Apr 4 2017, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(Darkended @ Apr 3 2017, 10:22 PM) *
Lord Naga,

What gave you that impression? Asking a civil question on where the Snake stood on the talks and if the views were your own or that of your clan?
Merely talking is enough to warrant you throwing insults at me and my clan? Accusing me of ignorance is an insult.

I do not call you a liar. I call that you are wrong in your assumption of my ignorance. Furthermore I call your open assumption to be insulting to me and my clan.

Haiyū Yang-To
Voice of the Jade council
Ear of the People
Daimyo of the Jade Dragon Clan


I would not and will not make peace with the 1st Oni.
That is my stance on the matter.

I would however seek entrance to the private chambers for a short time, if you would be gracious enough to allow it, as I wish to say some things best not said in public.

Chu Shuten.


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post Apr 4 2017, 08:52 AM
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It always amazes me how many people know the "Emporer's will" and use this to drive their view to the exclusion of others wishes.

Did the Emporer request we make a peace? Yes
Did the Emporer say the deal we arrived at was his desired outcome? No

Our deal was only one peace, another could have been found. One that was more acceptable to Lord Naga. Lord Naga voted no but that does not mean he is going against the Emporer's will. It means the negotiations at that point were not acceptable to him.

I am sure if you all sit down and share some tea, a sensible outcome with honour restored will be found. Discussion by written word are never satisfactory and often lead to misinterpretation

Lord Naga, I humbly ask you agree to tea with the Jade Council before any duel and I ask the other lord to consider my words

I suspect honour for all remains intact

Su
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