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post Feb 11 2016, 03:00 PM
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So, would having gone mancer as a priest count as a mana using class for the purposes of joining?

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post Feb 11 2016, 03:11 PM
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iv been told on points app sheets that mancer does not equal priest... so spiritual mancer probably does not equal wizard either.



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post Feb 11 2016, 03:24 PM
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Ah but the restriction is "mana using class" rather than "wizard" which is why I was thinking Enclave might be possible. Arcanum is very clear.


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post Feb 11 2016, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Will @ Feb 11 2016, 03:24 PM) *
Ah but the restriction is "mana using class" rather than "wizard" which is why I was thinking Enclave might be possible. Arcanum is very clear.


Mantic Spirits are Mantic Spirits not mana?
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post Feb 11 2016, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(ChrisAndrews @ Feb 11 2016, 04:14 PM) *
Mantic Spirits are Mantic Spirits not mana?


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post Feb 11 2016, 05:20 PM
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So, yes, obviously I had considered that HOWEVER:

"All power is now mantic (Goodly Spirit, Gold MANA)" (from my particular version)

Aaah ahhh? See where I'm coming from? wink.gif


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post Feb 11 2016, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(Will @ Feb 11 2016, 05:20 PM) *
So, yes, obviously I had considered that HOWEVER:

"All power is now mantic (Goodly Spirit, Gold MANA)" (from my particular version)

Aaah ahhh? See where I'm coming from? wink.gif



Sounds like a decision for Lee to make.


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post Feb 11 2016, 06:46 PM
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I'd still say you've used "mana" to refer to "magic" rather than "Mana" to refer to the power points - A sword can also be "gold mana" but it doesn't actually have gold Mana. Mana user has some examples in the handbook and they've all got free Mana or innate Spells:

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E.G. Elves, Wizards, Warlocks, Powermasters, Witchdoctors or Warriors of the Gem/Jewel who are that colour. E.G.
Black Mana Users would not include Blue Wizards even if they had a specialist spell of disintegrate (T).


And in the new books "Spiritual Mancer" has:

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This allows a priest to cast their spirits mantically, without obtaining mana
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post Feb 11 2016, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Will @ Feb 11 2016, 05:20 PM) *
"All power is now mantic (Goodly Spirit, Gold MANA)" (from my particular version)
Aaah ahhh? See where I'm coming from? wink.gif


Do you have any Gold Mana on its own?
I can see it from both sides - in that is your mantic power really any different to that of a Gold Wizard who's gone Mancer - in that they technically no longer have Mana. I suppose yours are Mantic Spirits and theirs is Mantic Mana, and on that basis I'd say you weren't eligible to join Enclave.

Mainly I'd say more because of the Ethos myself: The Enclave was created to act as a voice for the needs of Wizards & their lesser brethren, and to gain power, respect and influence for all mana users'

Tbh I think it's less of a question for Lee as GSM and more of a question for Lee as Lucius and Guild Sire of the Enclave.

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post Feb 11 2016, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(Will @ Feb 11 2016, 03:00 PM) *
So, would having gone mancer as a priest count as a mana using class for the purposes of joining?

No reason wink.gif


Generally no, because you have neither free mana or magical innates, you have mantic spirits.

In much the same way that a Wizard going mancer has mantic mana but no spirits or spiritual innates and does not buy as Priest.

That said, it would depend on your Non-Standard ability.

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