Please use this thread to ask the GSM a question!
This is for general questions rather than specific character stuff.
MCC
Do you get to know what a dying effect is before choosing whether to apply your resistance to dying effect?
I think you should as it is pretty boring being on the floor for 5 minutes, its rubbish when there is an OOC lottery in choosing and it leads to stupid scenarios like elves having to fall over for 5 mins to a spiritual stairway to death?
Surely you get hit by the firestrike or whatever and can choose to suck it up or fall over for 5 mins.
S
It's never been written down. My personally opinion on how it should work is you are aware of the dying effect and can decide at that point to apply it or not. No working out how much damage you take and if it would kill you or not. Just a "You take this dying effect, do you want to fall over?" Yes/No answer. Sort of like a retro really. Not doing it this way is basically just a bit rubbish with the way the system has evolved.
Lee
In the new Almanac it list the Hollow Bone Goblin tribe can play Forest Guardians and Leywalkers but not the base life.
Any chance can have the life's for these goblins.
Thanks Iain
Leywalkers use life as a Silverfolk Spy (35/12 at 8th) and forest guardians and Forest guardians have life as a Goblin pathfinder (39/15 at 8th)
Lee
Do all abilities that require prep time require that ability to be used immediately following the prep or can they be 'stored' up for later? Examples of the top of my head include: strike death blow, affinity with nature, flick of the wrist, mighty strikes and permutations but there are many more.
Thanks
Sam
yes they do scorpion. Concentration also can't be done when being hit/actively parrying monsters or the like.
I also remind people about the rules for locs being severed applies to corpses.
Lee
What is the consequence of being level drained with regards to life, power, resistance and casting levels?
How long does it take to come back?
Everyone will hate you now for asking this but:
You lose a level from you base class. For system and battle-boarding ease this means:
Your level of casting is reduced by 1 (so a 1st class priest can't cast 8th lvl miracles).
You lose a level of resistance
If your base life is from your base class it drops.
Your maximum power for power uses if reduced (so an 8th level warrior priests with 24 spirits, drops to 6th, his max spirits becomes 18).
If the ref is brave enough you lose supernatural innates (so neuronics, AP, etc.), but often this is easy to do.
They are earnt back like levels, so if I am reffing it's about 10 encounters to get one back, but depends on the situation.
Lee
If you've bought the Spiritual Vessel MR, can you still cast a Spirit Invis? And if yes, what would be the effect of that spirit invis?
Is it the same as before, you're just immune to all Spiritual effects? or does it (Like Paul reckons) either act as a sort of vanish animate and you stop existing for the duration, or does it just kill you?
Thanks in advance
You can't cast it as you are spirit only.
As a general rule you need to have "hits" (as in can take damage from" at least one power base. So no being Immune to physical damage (immortal), casting spirit invis, mind barring, and casting earth shield for example.
Lee
The Priest Status: Witness of Hidden Secrets
The “Detect Life” ability (assuming it’s not a typo and meant to be Detect Lie!) how does it function? 20’ range like other Detect abilities or is it more a 1” discern?
Is it supposed to have a verbal?
(OK, so I'm entirely willing to buy the whole status just for the spirit point reduction as both my neutral priests but it would be nice to know what the rest of it does! )
BBB
It's a typo as mentioned in another thread, so is Detect Lie.
Lee
Wind dancer life at 8th is 51/15, but 7th is 48/16, is this a typo and it's meant to be 51/17?
You have 29/9? or more sensibly 51/17 is correct.
Lee
Hi Lee
In the Lucky Dip this year, I got Priest status 'Learned One'. I think there might be a typo...
Stage 2 - Scrolls from this status can not be advanced miracles on the character's list.
Rather than not, should that reaad 'now'?
Cheers
MARK
Correct.
Lee
I just noticed the below:
The Very Well Equipped muti class is only available to Scout Subclasses and Witchs but in the Witch’s Muti Class costs have no costings.
So what are the costings for Witchs to take the above muti class?.
Thanks Iain
They can, and good spot. Let's go for same costs as Thugs.
But if you have a strong option character then might be cheaper by points apps.
Lee
The races book I'm looking at states 'Athfanal may join professional guilds with the guild masters permission, and they may only belong to Athfanal social or professional guilds'
Should the second part read 'may only belong to Athfanal social or political guilds'?
While I'm on Athfanal, are you able to clarify what the benefits of 'Skinning' are? Unable to find anything clear on it in the books other than 'allowing animal hides/fur to be turned into armour', presumably this means people without the 'skinning' skill can't?
Yes should be Social or Political.
Basically correct. You can skin a wolf/bear/balrog and turn it into armour and wear.
Lee
Hi,
Combat agility - first jump in a series of jumps - you are may not be struck during the jump
Is the important bit the first jump or the series of jumps
e.g. if I have the ability and I jump once but don't jump again quickly afterwards am I not able to be struck? or am I not able to be struck only if I do more than one jump in quick succession?
sorry if it is a small point and totally obvious
thanks
Richard
So you use a jump and can't be struck. If you jump again you can be struck.
There needs to be a definite break in the jumps for it to restart, so not jump, run two steps and then jump again.
Lee
Ok right I know that a Troll cannot benefit fully from 1/2 effect Fire from Table 3 but can they benefit from the below stuff to gain 1/2 Fire.
Walk Though Fire spells
Resist Fire (Druid Evocation)
Neuromastery Fire (Self)
Thanks Iain
correct except trolls can't have neuronic.
Lee
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Not that I'm planning on playing an evil priest anytime soon but with regard to Summon Vampire it says the vampire can turn into a bat, rat and wolf at will.
In these forms can they do any damage? (am guessing not)
Do they retain the hits the vampire had when it transformed?
Can they be harmed in these forms (kind of thinking they could be subject to range attacks but probably not touch / blows as tricky to hit a rat etc)
Cheers
Ben
It's all a bit vague but:
Wolf - You can probably fight and be hit normally.
Bat - You are a flying bat so can't hit people and can fly
Rat - Like a bat, but rather than fly can fit through small holes.
Otherwise yes they retain the hits and stuff.
Lee
Scout “recognise” abilities - eg neuronic, EP, spirit
I’m spiritless - can I recognise spirit? Assuming not, as says as per priest ability which would be a spiritual info effect?
I buy vessel of the dragons MR (the ‘magic only’ one, I think that’s what it’s called!)
Do I at some point lose the ability to recognise neuronics and EP I’d owned?
Thanks
Dave
They are the relevant powerbase. Same is true for scholar now.
So magic only means only rec mana.
Lee
Hi
All priests can MC Spiritual Vessel.
A spirit warrior buying this MC... as written they can use and benefit fully. Thus they can cast from the separate spirit pool. And there is nothing written about sharp weapon restrictions.
Could a Sp Warrior with a bastard sword (say) therefore buy and benefit fully. Or is there some 'missing wording' requiring spiritual choice, blunt weapons, etc. Guessing it is fine as written, but wanted to check.
Alasdair
[I] No as written Spirit warriors can't have spirits unless they buy the ability to, so can't use the spirits.
Lee [/I}
HI.
There is a massive disparity in the information for playing a half troll between Realm of Glass and Evolution: Races.
This being the case, which post 8th list is to be referenced?
cheers
Og
Evolution Races is correct, except for the fact they still can't learn Neuronics.
Lee
Can an Ishmaic High wizard:
1. Carry a magical glaive, and
2. Parry with it?
The descriptions of Ishmaics and Glaives seem very keen to let them have them. And is it a short spear, or dagger with a long handle for system purposes?
Stuart
Glaive is a short spear.
You could carry a glaive, but still couldn't parry with it as you can't use weapons.
Lee
Are Traditions and Status the same thing.
The new warrior book states you can have one tradition, later it states you can have one status. Is it one or the other or can you now have one of each?
They are different.
You have a tradition slot.
You can buy A warrior status from the book, or get a non-standard version of one.
You can then have other statuses, such as KotL/other guilds etc.
Lee
If a spiritless creature with a magic shield blocks a pure mantic quad, what happens?
He blocks it.
Lee
Hi Lee,
Can a Dwarf warrior with Privileged tradition m/c Power Warrior? It's says they're are in the warrior bracket only.
I can't see Power Warrior as m/c option for any other classes.(may have missed it though)
Thanks Andy
Yes but it is a points app as you are correct its not published.
Lee
Just a quicky. When doing a proper path (ie non mancer) can you now choose any colour matching your alignment or is it still white for goodly and black for evil?
Cheers
No you pick a relevant colour.
Lee
Do Items gained by Guild Abilities (e.g. such as the ISP from DORAC) or from points abilities (e.g. Adventurer Multiclass) use up Item Slots for characters restricted in the number of items they can have (e.g. Paladins, Monastic)?
BBB
Guilds, CC and similar yes on item slots and are items.
Own spent points no on item slots, but might be items (EG Adventurer) for monks/similar.
Lee
It says crol can only be fire, air, water or earth mages and cannot cast grey, however it does not say anything about learning other colours. So i was wondering if they can learn other colours as specialists or are they entirely limited to red, blue, green or brown.
Thanks
Red, Green, Blue, and brown is it.
Lee
Armour Mastery states that it is applied before AC.
Assuming you have PAC 12, 6 points of AM and Imm. to Bruising PAC if hit by a triple I assume you still take 1 point of bruising.
If that is true why is it written this way as normally the numerical comes after AC.
It is probably just a flavour wording thing (I don't have the exact wording on me). The rule is:
A/C
Numerical
Fractional and percentile.
Lee
Can you use items of +x casting levels for learning spells?
And if so does the spell stay learned when the item blows up, if that would mean you no longer have the casting levels required to have learned it?
Cheers,
Sean
Nope, only your own permanent abilities.
Lee
Damage reductions, I should probably know this by now, but still not 100% sure how it works!
So I get the one numeric, one percentage and one fractional.
But the fractional sometimes seems problematic. I -think- the rule is that if one of the damage reductions is conditional it will stack with a universal damage reduction, as per the following examples, but just want to be sure:
I believe that I can stack my 1/2 effect to mantic effects from a spiritual source and my resistances to causing/spirit bolt, etc together, even though both are fractional. But can I stack 1/2 effect black/bronze/whatever and 1/2 effect mantic effects from spiritual source?
Not as sure, but think I can stack 1/2 effect grey with 1/2 effect dispels?
If I get hit by a black mana weapon blow from behind, can I stack 1/2 effect black with 1/2 damage blows from behind? (am magic only obviously)
Think the above examples will cover any other such instances I'm not sure of. Hope clear enough?
Cheers,
Sean
So:
Weapon blows = 1 fractional, but!!!
Resistances will stack if relevant.
Effects = Resistances, but they broadly stack in most ways. So 1/2 fx mantics and black and causing is fine.
Lee
Can Grinner MR to Hobgoblin as they are a sub race of goblin??
Yes
Lee
If a hobgoblin take poisoner, does the cost reduction in immunity to poison stack... ie become a 75% discount,
i am assuming not but just wanted to check
No
Lee
Is the shifts granted from Deci assassin physical or magical?? I am wondering if they can be used by say somone with brute?
Thanks
They are magical innates.
Lee
Can a hermit neutral priest split his spirits so for example 30 evil 30 neutral or 20 good and 40 neutral if so what limit are the evil or good spirits?
they function as per the rules in words from abobe.
Lee
If you take multi class warrior to 8th, would buying the published 3pts armour mastery sharp and blunt (300points total) count as only 1 slot or would each purchase require a 1st class slot?
Miles
Sharp and blunt are seperate abilities.
Lee
Hihi
If I make say a monster pts item of 9/3 life then is this a magic item and if so what color?
If I can only use say black Mana items does this mean I can't use say an item of 1 dac?
Cheers
i think this is basically character specific. Check based on the character.
Lee
Hi,
What happens to the evil priest when an embodied undead is either dismissed or destroyed, are they harmed?
Andy J
it depends on the power up. In general it has a bad effect on them.
Lee
Does the warrior ability "immunity to accuracy through pac" grant immunity to blade sharpening or is it litterally only the ability accuracy??
thanks
It grants immunity to accuracy in all its forms, including blade sharpening.
Lee
Armour Layering question:
If you have MC Plate over MC Chain granting PAC 10 where the chain is +0 spiritual and the plate is +0 magical how is damage calculated regarding pure blows.
Is it per effective piece of armour or does the layering come into effect?
Also would someone with a casting metal restriction suffer from the chainmail?
You apply the armour that has the relevant power base. Layering only matters if both have it.
All non-magical metal applies to metal restrictions.
Lee
Could a dwarf warrior priest step change to another priestly class of they wanted to?
Not standardly
Lee
If I buy the 20pts ability to be equipped with a suit of armour, and use this for skins, what AC can I battleboard?
X+2 (mastercrafted)
What is X?
Alasdair
So it's not really amour.... but I'm willing to go with 4. (so 6 is master crafted).
Lee
If you have "live to minus x first time needed" as an ability, then get an item of the same can you use both.
If yes, how would it work
It all depends what they'd say but exactly, but if its Survivor/similar and the published item when you would need any live to they both kick in. So say 6 from "Ability" and 6 from "item" for 12 total.
Two items wouldn't stack, but abilities probably would in line with above.
Lee
Can the "craft speciality type" ability be used for teaching scrolls?
And does it stack with all the other teaching scroll abilities? Making a total of +8% available from published tables abilities?
Cheers,
Sean
Yes it can and yes it does.
Lee
Can the healing ability from demons bound MR be used on non vitea infused enimies, as presumably slayer cannot.
yes it can. Slayer just does very little potentiay.
Lee
If you have an item of spiritual live-to-minus first time it is needed and an item of magical live-to-minus first time it is needed how do these interact:
Option 1: Both kick in first time they are needed and you need both magic and spirit damage to die.
Option 2: One one kicks in and the player gets to choose - the other is wasted.
Option 3: One kicks in the first time it is needed, the second kicks in the second time it is needed and the player gets to choose the order.
Option 2. You can generally only have one "live to minus kicks in 1st time" type thing.
Lee
As I understand when playing a Dwarven Wizard you get half the mana of a normal Wizard, but if you take all extra mana from the tables at 40 points ago is this halved again or do you get the full amount of mana per table?
Also is there a better chance at making stuff when playing a Dwarven wizard?
There must be some advantages to out way the lack of Mana.
Thank you
Stomps.
You get half mana full stop, it is painful.
There are a couple of abilities that you can buy for extra % on makes.
It is basically a bad choice class, much like a 1/2 elf priest.
Lee
When MR to hob goblin, does the increased life scale apply from class to class or is it only for the Base class of the character,
For example, Goblin scout MR to hobgoblin 6 gaining base 41 base life, then MC to warrior, would his life increase to 6th level orc warrior @56 or stay at 41??
Thanks
Applies class to class, but remember goblin restricitons.
Lee
If you hear something out of character that you haven’t been told in character, can/should you take that knowledge in character?
It all gets tricky. So broadly don't abuse it:
So you have someone tied to Thimon and hear loads of people talking about how they burnt down the Watch house in Thimon on their dungeon today in the pub. It's probably ok to assume that you know a watch house got burnt down.
You hear people talking about how they broke in to a nobles house and stole his items then it's not ok.
A little common sense really.
Lee
Hey,
If one becomes immune to all but a particular powerbase does that mean I could only interact or operate within that powerbase.
Example: I take vessel of the dragons to 6th level meaning I now only take damage from magic. Does that mean I can only interact with the world through magic, so I couldn't use mundane weapons or benefit from spirit or earthpower healing, or is it more extreme that I can't physically interact with the world at all, or is it simply that I only take damage from magic.
Thanks
You are immune to all bar magic. So EP healing, Spiritual healing. You can only use a magic weapon, can't wear normal physical armour etc.
Lee
Hi,
If a warlock multiclasses wizard do they still have combat only casting restriction's?
Thanks
Nope, they can cast as a wizard then.
Lee
Is the new Primal Strength figure for Scarlene an error?
At present it shows as 46 at the start, +2, ending in 28. I suspect this should be 48
C
Should be 48
Lee
May I ask what the life increments would be for a Dwarf Warrior Priest MC to Spiritual Healer please ?
Many thanks as always for your effort and patience,
As published, dwarves going classes do badly on loc life
Lee
Hi
If you path from a priest to a wizard can you purchase and use the 50 pts ability +5 specialist slots? If so presuming these aren't able to be cast mantically without an app?
Cheers
Nope.
Lee
Hey,
Winter Elf Warlock multi-racing winter barbarian. There is no listed cost so I assume it is non-standard only? If not then what would the cost be?
Thanks,
It is indeed non-standard, because of how Warlock/Witchdoctor works. You'd have a few options on it.
Lee
Two questions if I may:
1) After going Vessel of the Dragon is all damage bar pure magic hard capped or can you use a +0 magic sword with appropriate abilities to go above quad despite its physical component?
2) If a blue/red fairy goes chromatic grey wizard can s/he use brown and green spells?
1 is easy, and published. you can use a +0 physical/magical sword, but the person gets to apply their best from PAC/MAC to it and DAC, but you can only inflict magic damage.
2 a little more complicated.
A wizard has an opposite colour, a fairy doesn't. So in the case you give you are fine. But if you were a brown wizard you couldn't use Blue innates.
Lee
What are the rules for spirit stores? How many can you carry and how much power can they give you?
They are in the ISP book, but here you go:
Items which grant extra power do stack with one another, but to a maximum of +12 power from a given powerbase of a given type, and a maximum of +24 power over all pools from the same powerbase (e.g. one could have +12 mana & +12 red mana, or +8 red mana, +8 blue mana, +8 grey mana).
Items that grant an existing power user more power simply grant them more power. This power can be used just like normal, can be meditated back and so on and so forth, with the set restrictions on what can be cast from it (if appropriate). The exception to this is Regenerating power stores, this power forms a separate pool that allows effects to be cast from. It cannot be combined with a person’s normal power, so a 4 point regenerating power store can only cast things that cost 4 or less power.
Lee
The restriction on Flow of the Divine states: “May not regain spirits except Via Supreme Sacrifice (or similar) for 3 hours after using…”
If you use it to regain spirits in your main pool does it then also prevent Vessel Spirits from regenerating if the spirits medded back were from your main pool.
BBB
All regaining of spirits.
Lee
If I, an elf, buy 1/2 effect gold mana off table 3, and am total healed by a mancer with gold mana, do I take 1/2 effect (36pts?)
Ta, Jack
Yes.
Lee
If a dwarf somehow acquires the ability to gain magical innates from a multi class do you gain the full innates or half of the listed amount?
Depends on the case, but probably full innates (EG Elder Fey).
Lee
In the races book trolls can buy +3 from +2 then +4 and so on. Should these all now be 1 higher as trolls get 3 innate PAC to start with?
yes
Lee
I can add published reductions to mana cost when buying innates of spell. I am buying multiple innates of a stackable glyph. Expertise decreases by 1 for first casting and 2 for each subsequent. Which reduction to I buy innates at? ������
If the reduction has a condition it has to apply when you cast it.
Lee
should a wizard purchase second colour, and then MC to disenchanter, does the level 1 ability of 2nd colour grey replace their 2nd colour or does it become 3rd colour or is it lost completly??
it takes your second colour slot. So you can't go it if you have already second coloured as a non-grey wizard.
Lee
If a leywalker or militant forest gaurdian MC to druid, do they lose thier usual restrictions (ie 30 seconds to find a ley line and in the case of forest gaurdian buying at -2 tables)???
Yes for leywalker.
No for militant forest guardian as its an extra restriction you added by taking the ability.
Lee
Grey advanced spell transient artificing says that it enchants a "suit of armour" ... is this a location or an entire suit?
Thanks
One suit, so all locations.
Lee
How are Rogues limited to casting when it comes to Alignment?
must be evil to cast onyx, goodly for jade, goodly for sabre lt
How are Neutral Grey Wizards limited when it comes to alignment and Rainbow/A New Rainbow. (I am Chaotic Neutral) Can I cast Jade/Ivory despite being neither Goodly/Lawful if I have chosen 'A New Rainbow' and are casting the spell I have put in that specialist slot.
as rogue basically. If the spell/colour has an alignment restriction you need to match it.
Lee
Are casting restrictions from Combat Mage exactly the same as warlock casting restrictions?
Specifically, can a wizard who has bought Combat Mage cast combat-related informational spells if he has them, such as Tell Strength, if done directly for a combat purpose?
Yep anything directly combat related.
Lee
Does a Sabre blast effect do locational damage to monsters? It is listed as a 6/1 blast for players but 2hits for a monster.
Lightning bolt is also listed as 24/4 and 8 hits to monsters..
It would be 3 blows for a hit to each loc though.
Lee
Monk restrictions to magic, do they apply to mantics, I assume so but you can never tell with mantics it has it’s own rules ������
Broadly yes.
Lee
A Pathfinder MC Stealth Mage has selected blue and picks up a bunch of different blue mana innates as a result, if they later decide to MC Wizard could they choose to be a Brown Wizard? Book states 'may not learn spells of an opposite colour to their own' and wasn't sure whether the innates would count against that?
you can't do it.
Lee
For a Elf/faerie to hold anything at all does the items/objects need to be enchanted. Also what about if they contain magic already?
To use anything system relevant it needs to be enchanted or magical so:
Armour
Shields
Weapons
Are the obvious three. Things like cutlery and plates are fine.
Lee
If a warrior has a set of mantic armour dose he need use spirit item for that armour to apply vs pure spirit blows?
yes
Lee
Looking for a confirmation on Vessel of the Dragon.
The second buying option is other spiritless, looking to confirm that you don't need to be in the wizard bracket and just have to be an elf, fairy etc to buy this option?
Seems fairly obvious to me but a few people have told me you have to be a wizard to buy this option so thought I best check before I spend any points.
No it really is obvious. Other spiritless means Elves etc.
Lee
if an alignment restricted race hermit priest takes fidning faith, may this take thier alignment into the restricted alignment, For example, a c/n ancient folk spirit warrior taking finding faith to join talthar becomes c/g??
Standardly no.
Lee
do ancient folk have to pay extra to MR to titan??
No
Lee
1. Could I consider majoring in two spheres via buying the normal minor/major ability and then upgrading the major in one go, as two opposite abilities for purposes of grey warden cost reduction?
Nope
2. Angelic armour from angel touched grants 1/3rd off all damage from an evil source for 5 mins, would this apply to an evil bloke using a regular, physical sword?
Yep anyone evil hitting you in any way.
3. Contra mastery states "May not buy this if counter mastery is already purchased and vice versa." I assume this means it cannot be purchased both as counter mastery against maces and contra mastery against maces, rather than just being unable to buy both at all, but just wanted to make sure.
This is an error from the old books. you can.
4. Can walk through floors be used on the walk through floors granted by embodying angels/abashai?
Yep
Cheers,
Mark
Does buying Master of Celerity make you immune to regardless damage as if you had bought Fortitude and Celerity and there individual immunities?
General yes.
Lee
Looking for a mantic clarification.
Originally I understood mantic to be a combination of two powerbases that could effect both and be effected by both.
However I have come to understand that a pure mantic creature is unaffected by magic or spiritual damage as pure mantic seems to have become its own powerbase.
Does that mean that a pure mantic creature doing mantic damage can't kill something with last hit magic or spirit, or is it a I can hurt you but you can't hurt me situation?
Its in the books somewhere, but a mantic hit creature can do magic and spirit damage normally.
Lee
Competence
Available To: Rogues Cost: 80pts
May now cast grey Standard glyphs, as per a non-Grey wizard. Must still acquire these through teaching however, not bought with grulls.
Am I right in thinking post purchasing this I can just get a bunch of grey teaching scrolls made, which won't count against specialist slots.
Yep correct. Remember rules on learning dispels.
Lee
Does AC count as a resistance?
For example 'Double, cuts through all your resistances'
Would 'Discern resistances to Magic Missile' grant the caster knowledge of a targets MAC as it resists the damage taken?
Thanks, Jack
No its A/C.
Depends on how the double is set as it is entirely non-standard.
Again depends on the ability as it is a non-standard.
Lee
Because I really can't remember and the Wizard's Grimoire isn't clear:
Am I correct in saying that when a Wizard learns new Spells Life / Casting stamina / Casting Levels from Guilds and Items count as "Non-Permanent" so cannot be used for calculating the damage suffered and whether you can take the Double casting life and remain conscious.
BBB
No, they are all fine to use. If it is on your battleboard you are good.
Lee
the guild totemic gaurdians allows you to pick a power from primal soul predator or prey, If you choose jump, how does the relate at a rate of 1/2 levels, is this
A:) based on actual character level so you would have 4, OR
B:) Based on levels of the MR so you would get 1 for just having the ability
C:) based on levels in the MR so you would get 0
Thanks
Graham
somewhat obviously it's your character level.
Lee
So:
Neuronic shards; 100 grulls per Tblp of the innate. Life cost applied when used: One shot doesn’t count as an item. 70/76% chance of success. Probably Mental prep for 100%....
Neuronic trinkets; 1000 +(500 per roll per tblp) no life cost to use, one shot, counts as an item with no blow up.
90+%% -1% per 3tblp on each roll
So a NSJ is 1200 for a shard at 70%
Or 7000 for a trinket at 90 - 4%
I’m struggling to see the benefit of a trinket.
Regards, Mark
I can't see one either. But Trinkets of total heal aren't great either.
Lee
If a Power Master MC wizard (of own colour), can they:
1. Use standard grey spells
2. Use specialist slots
3. Second colour?
Cheers
Alasdair
You've gone wizard, so you get buy as and spells as Wizard.
Lee
Seen multiple ways of reffing this.
So is there an actual rule about what normally happens if you:
A) magically transport across a spiritual warding
spiritually transport across a magical warding
Or is it just warding / ref dependent?
Cheers,
Sean
published wardings work as written. What the ref sets is up to them, but normally shifting across spiritual warding triggers them.
Lee
If you are either a player or a monster that has a last hit and you are struck by an effect that instantly kills you such as ToD or Annihilation go you die or are you dropped to your last hit?
If it is last hit then you still die.
Lee
Ward pacts. Do they exist outside the power base system?
Sirac is magic only, as such if I wardpact undead does it only effect those subject to magic or all?
Cheers,
Sean
they work because of the pact being between you and a relevant patron.
Lee
in the old green druid book there was an ability called "tribal ancestry" for alfar, for 40 points table 0, however it was not put into the new evolutions, Does this ability still exist and was just not put in the new book or was it removed??
thanks
Graham
It's an error, should still be there.
Lee
What level undead do you become immune to TOD and suspend life
Thanks Sam
Assuming you mean using the standard multi-race, level 6.
Lee
A wizard can embody an elemental. They suffer if that elemental is negated.
Looking at Elements Bound MR, there is a minor ability that says the wizard no longer needs to summon an elemental to embody it. Presumably this means that when embodied they cannot be negated at all/ elemental cannot be dispelled.
Do I understand that correctly?
And.. now that they have a strong elemental affinity, what does that mean on elemental sight? Do they look to their own colour elemental like ‘one of their own’?
Cheers
Alasdair
Nope.
They can still be negated by other elementals, they just draw their inner elemental out.
They couldn't have the "Elemental" dispelled, but could still have the embody dispelled.
No, they aren't an elemental they are just close it.
Lee
Hi
How do magic dispels against a mantic effect ( eg a mantic plate self )
Thanks
Luinmir
Gary
They fail.
Lee
Can some one tell what “immune to blood and flesh effects “ means
Also there are references in the multi class elemental elf as “full immunity to blood and flesh effects “
I can’t find any reference to what these actually mean
Thanks
Luinmir
Gary
There isn't a full definition, but it includes Pain, a lot of druidic evocations, potions and poisons, blood drain, some Onyx spells.
Lee
The T8 Spiritless Ability - Resistance to 'Mantics which originate from a spiritual effect, character suffers only 1/2 damage, does not affect resistance levels or duration.
How does this interact with Resistances to Spirit Bolt, Causing, Soul Lance etc?
Am I correct in thinking they won't stack as they are both a fractional reduction?
If you wanted to get better than 1/2 off, you would need to buy 1st Res, 2nd Res etc?
Should their be a 2nd Res to Causing/Spirit Bolt for Spiritless or do they pay the full points price after the 1st?
Resistance to mantics does stack with them, as resistances are normally 1/2 previous effect.
If you were using it s a damage reduction vs weapon blows then it wouldn't.
2nd and 3rd resistances ar enormal costs for Elves etc.
Lee
Sheenie the human warlock is mana-raging with a 25% cold rage. I cast Weaken the Body on him and beat him with a Sabre of Darkness and Deceit. Presumably the +25% pure magical damage from Weaken the Body and the -25% from the rage simply cancel out and Sheenie takes normal damage? Rather than for example me having to multiply 75% by 125% to work out that he is taking 93.75% of normal damage or something mind-bending like that.
Now Sheenie upgrades to a 100% black rage, still mana-raging. This may be non-standard but can we assume it is the most basic kind of 100% mana rage imaginable. Presumably the +25% from Weaken the Body comes off the 100% reduction so Sheenie only has a 75% reduction, and a sabre quad would do him 6 points if he is immune to the blast effect. (He didn't think he needed any DAC or MAC because he has a 100% rage...)
I am just trying to think of a situation where I would actually want to cast Weaken the Body...
Just don't over think it. Apply the increase in effect then apply the damage reduction. Simple.
Lee
Could a purely spiritual character using a mantic weapon affect a mantic formed creature (but not a mana formed one), in the same way that an elf with a mantic weapon can (but not a spirit formed one)?
Cheers,
Mark
Yes
Lee
Benefits from different guilds don’t stack but what happens when one gives you abilities that then give you access to a benefit already gained?
Example: Frontline gives +1DAC & Totemic Guardians gives Primal Soul minor and medium benefits. Could you choose the +2 DAC and it stack or not please?
Thank you
yes they would stack. I think it even says it somewhere in the Almanac.
Lee ]
Scarlene Kallah Benefit
Can a Vessel of the Dead use twist the form to embody a Vampire? It's an undead that needs a body so works as written, but unlike other undead it uses a living sacrifice and slays said sacrifice as part of the summoning.
Thanks,
Edd
I thought I had answered this, but can't find it. So I'm going to say:
yes you can BUT you need a sacrifice to channel it through. So lay out victim, be in prot with them. Cast it and wait the 5 min for it to arrive. When it arrives the 15 minutes start.
Lee
Some wizard master/apprentice questions...
1) Are the benefits perm once bought? Even if the master or apprentice perm dies? As the learning remains. Mainly important for me (master) as if the casting levels are not perm cant use them for learning new spells.
They are permanent and remain
2) If the benefits are perm, can the rebirthed character still buy a new apprenticeship with the same master, both paying 15 pts again. Effectively meaning the master gains another casting level for another "new" apprentice.
No. The apprentice could rebuy, but the master already has the ability (so doesn't need to pay the points again).
3) Can I apprentice someone who is more pts than me?
Yes
4) Can I apprentice two characters belonging to the same player? In this case, one ivory, one gold, neither will effectively ever meet.
Yes in theory, but often best avoided
Cheers,
Sean
And yes you can apprentice to your master in a weird teacher becomes pupil way.
Lee
Is a character aware of a disease before the 5 minutes? If they were unaware IC they were diseased?
assuming the standard miracle no. But if the person has an instant discern disease (priest not druid) it's not unreasonable to assume they check themselves regularly.
Lee
What happens to points spent on a Guild Status should the guuld blow up?
I assume the benefits if the status are lost if the guuld dies.
Are these points then just dead points?
Or could they be respent?
BBB
They become wasted points, just like they would in the unlikely event Knigths went boom.
Yes it is an investment in the guild and incentive to keep them going.
Lee
If a dwarven priest paths to spiritual mancer do they get full mantic spirits?
Cheers,
Mark
Yep
Lee
Could you give a little more info regarding the final stage of the Champion of Nature build path.
Hey,
Druid ability chosen field says it reduces EP cost by 1 but doesn't say there is a minimum. Does this mean that it can reduce the cost to 0?
Thanks
Chris
Always minimum 1 unless it says otherwise.
Lee
Hi Lee,
If an elf takes 'mortal body' and then MR High Elf (or brought mortal body after MR high Elf) do they regain their original flesh and blood immunity?
Thanks
No, as it is an "elven race"
Immortal or one of the other immunity to flesh and blood ones then yes they'd become immune.
Lee
It says ratfolk can now be amlesian but do not benefit from breed or clan, However thier breed determines what classes they could be, So without that, what classes can Amles ratfolk be?? i am presuming any of those avaialable to all breeds.
Thanks
Yep. Just they don't get anything for it really.
Lee
Hi,
How do Neuronic classes work with regard to cold rages, specifically, if a PSI-Master takes a cold rage as his 7th or 8th warrior specialist does using the rage bar him from neuronics for 5mins in a similar way to fear and other emotion causing effects?
How is this impacted, if at all, by the tier 1 ability 'Emotionless' ?
Thanks.
Carl
Cold raging is an emotion thing, so would stop neuronics.
Lee
Couple of clarifications please Lee
If I'm hitting a tree whilst doing quad with a flaming axe am I doing the equivalent of a 12 or a 16? Trying to understand how these things stack.
Depends on the tree, but standard ones you can live large and do sixteen
A fairy cannot normally benefit from strength, in the case of adrenal surge I assume you gain all the benefits aside from the stacking strength, therefore if you have enough weapon masteries to fill the extra damage grade can you still call quin or is the +1 max damage strength based?
Its a buy as restriction, so they can't buy + 1 strength. However you can get it from the adrenal surge.
Lee
Does someone casting dispel on a bind that a black tiger monk is stuck in, break said black tigers restrictions?
I think it depends but probably yes.
Where is is ok. I cast bind on black tiger monk when he tries to rage into the party. Rage ends and he says get rid of this or I kill you.
Monster binds black tiger monk and i dispel it so he doesn't get beaten to death.
Lee
Hihi
I've taken a path to 6th by buying 6th Wizard. Can I do a non standard 7/8 (let's say I don't want the makes but something else etc) or am I stuck with the standard 7/8?
you can but won't get much of a discount for dropping stuff if any
Secondly if I can do a non standard 7/8th that then buys as wizard can I buy 4 first class wiz abilities or is this just a bonus for standard 7/8 multiclasses?
if you write it in.
Lastly, if a person is a vessel of the dead MR, can they only be twist the formed if they are willing. IE could an evil priest just summon a zombie into them even if they didn't want it?
no because of how twist the form is worded.
Cheers
Ben
If an elven scout takes vessel of the dragons does that prevent him from using physical scout skills like assisted climb, salmon leap and physical chameleon?
What about using physical discerns? Can he still make lembas? Can he still make other potions if he had the ability?
No he wouldn't. I know it seems a bit odd but they are more "Can do" abilities rather than powerbase.
Just like a knock back might be a physical ability, but if you use a magic sword to hit said elf he is still effected by it.
Lee
If a scout subclass multiclasses pathfinder, can they choose a skill that they previously had with their subclass, and thus gain more innates?
I am assuming the levels wouldnt stack but for example would the scout subclass who already had 2 jump inates from Athlete, then multiclass as Pathfinder and select Athlete as a skill, gaining an extra jump innate per 3 levels (or fraction of) of the multiclass?
I'm trying to see the benefit of multiclassing as pathfinder when it seems far more beneficial to simple by additional skills post 8th at 20 points a pop.
No they can't. But they can get new level based skills they don't have.
They also have the advantage that where a skill has a prerequisite (so discern and make healing) they can buy discern healing with points, and then take make healing as a pathfinder skill as it requires skill levels.
Yes this is intended and is a benefit of using a multi-class slot to do it.
Lee
Been looking at Alfar and throughout the description it mentions them being tribal a lot but then it doesn't say they are tribal in there rules, are they tribal or not?
Not tribal, but there should be a 0 point ability of "Is tribal" it got missed when the books were redone. It will be back in the next version
Lee
Next silly question,
If I am half effect magic say from dward or 3rd wind I am hit by a spell that has a lesser effect if you are 1/2 effect say gravity well (lessened by 1/2 effect brown) being 1/2 effect to magic am I therefore 1/2 effect brown or would you need 1/2 effect brown as well?
Dwarf is 1/2 effect magic full stop, so yes 1/2's a gravity well. The Wind is just 1/2 damage magic, so wouldn't have any effect on a gravity well.
Lee
Please confirm the current rules on multiclass slots - specifically, I have bought the first 5 levels of a MC but L6 is on a table I am yet to reach. Can I start a new MC while I build up the points total to buy L6 of the first one?
(They are both non-standard if that matters)
Thanks
David
all non-standards are see me, but in the case above likely to be no you have to wait.
Lee
Looking to better understand gravity well as I've heard a number of different things.
1) Do grades of strength have any effect?
No
2) Can you move about on your knees?
Yes
3) Do you lose abilities that require being able to move freely (Forearm Parry, Celerity etc) or just your DaC?
Yes
4) How does having 1/2 effect brown effect the spell in respect of number 4 above?
You can move freely when you have 1/2 effect. You just still lose the DAC and it is not a dex drain
Thanks for the clarification.
If you have a rebirth that gives a free multiclass 1 level per table, can you take other multiclasses before reaching 8th?
Thanks,
Peter
Yes, unless it specifically says otherwise.
Lee
Is there a system max on no max ac when running away for goblins?
Thanks
Richard
nope.
Lee
Do Vochstella start with specialist slots for filling and learning innates??
No
Lee
Hello again, sorry if this is written down somewhere.
If I have an item of 50% beserk rage 1/day - it says no other text than that,
what should I assume that i cannot do during that? all of the following are for standard tables versions of the abilities
1. Can I tell friend from foe?
2. Can I use FAP/FLP/UAP
3. Can I use counter/contras?
4. Can i cast spells? miracles?
5. Can i back out of a combat?
6. Do I need to be afraid of magic?
7. Can i use items? Does the powerbase of the item affect this?
sorry lots of questions, should i just assume i'm like a beserker?
thanks
Richard
You assume correct that it is as berserker so:
1= Any one hostile is fair game.
2= yes
3 = yes
4 = no
5 = no
6= no that is a berserker restriction not a rage restriction.
7= depends on the item, but you can't cast.
Lee
if a character MC to 6th level priest, can they buy, learn and cast miracles above 6th level or would they need to take that class to 8th??
nope you need to be 8th level.
Lee
Hi,
Where a druid has created a loner list is he standardly able to change this list? The table 0 ability 'Acceptance' is almost what is required, but aimed at dropping a loner list and joining a named conclave. As a loner list is an alternative to an named conclave can this be used, or is it a 1 liner app.
Thanks,
Carl
Acceptance is what you need, it's table 1 and 20 points, or founder maybe.
Lee
Hey.
When creating a Druid from scratch what evocations are available BEFORE you buy 'Chosen'.
If its just the standard evocations do you loose the ones that do not appear in the list you have chosen after 'Chosen'
Thanks
- Pace
Sorry not sure I understand what you mean. Basically druids can cast/learn loads of stuff. To learn evocation above a certain level they either need to be standard ones or in their chosen field.
Beyond that have fun. If you buy abilities with restrictions they kick in.
Lee
Hi,
Shroud of Halgar grants immunity to magic and spiritual damage, and I assume as it covers both the components of mantic damage, to that as well?
If I combine this with a Ironskin evocation granting 1pt of damage per damage grade on physical blows will this, as I am immune to the magic and/or spiritual components of the weapon, mean that I would also only take 1pt of damage from those supernatural weapons?
Thanks,
Carl
correct on mantics.
Iron skin doesn't apply to weapons with a supernatural component. So an elven druid with an ironskin would still be hurt by a +0spirit weapon, like an elf with a svelte up.
Lee
"From the ability to read magical scrolls using Read Glyphs and languages, may now read spiritual scrolls of miracles up to half the user’s skill level in read Glyphs and Languages (round up). These scrolls must be of the appropriate alignment as per a Priest, i.e. LG, NG, CG & LN characters may only read good or neutral spirit scrolls, NN characters may only read neutral spirit scrolls and CN, LE, NE & CE may only read neutral or evil spirit scrolls."
Is this a hard ruling as written or is this an oversight and in fact should be like Priests and if C/N you align yourself to Goodly or Evil at the point you gain the ability?
Cheers
Its from the old rules. But it carries over to your priestness. So if you are C/N and pick goodly then go priest you don't get to pick evil from that.
Lee
The +25% on Silver Folk purchasing abilities, in regards to the exemption of abilities available to ALL, would 'ALL bar Wiz' for example be exempt from the +25% (as long as your not a Wizard)
Immunity to Bruising using DAC, does only DAC apply to this? Say my AC12 is made up of 10 DAC and 2 item PAC. Can I ignore bruising from a Double as my DAC does apply to the blow? Or do I literally need 12 DAC?
Yep All bar is still all.
And for immunity to bruising using DAC it all needs to be DAC.
Lee
Hi Lee.
The "Dawn" tombola Elven Innates.
Usable by priests or not?
Cheers,
Tim.
They are a magical item, so not unless they have acquired utilise magic item from somewhere.
Lee
I have a tombola item of Zombie potions
What does this do exactly?
It's in At the Sharp End.
Lee
Hey,
Paladin multi-classes pure priest. Pure priest says may never use physical weapons. Do pure priest restriction to physical weapons apply even though the paladin has weapon use abilities?
Does unarmed combat count as a physical weapon?
Can I take weapon masteries in unarmed combat?
Thanks,
Chris
Pure priest restrictions over rule Paladin weapon skills, and unarmed combat counts as a physical weapon.
Lee
If you have an item of rebirth/upgrades to it, can it be used or does it blow up when you perm, before your rebirth?
If the item blows up you can't use it. So unless it has DNBUOD you'd need to rebirth before the end of the dungeon.
Also if the item is once ever or uses you'd need to be battle boarding and using a use on the dungeon you died.
Lee
If you buy Dexterous Celerity then later buy Master of Celerity do you pay full price for the latter or is it 50 points less?
Full price.
Lee
Did e skill for goblin scouts go away?
I can't find it on the tables anywhere.
I don't think it ever existed.
Lee
Hi Lee
Now there are two published ways to get forearm parry as a warrior, can someone who gains it this way buy the listed ‘Parry Versitility’?
Thank you
having forearm parry doesn't let you buy parry versatility. It is an ability listed on the tables (in the warrior book) with the requirements there.
Lee
Hi Lee,
How do spiritual light and magical darkness interact?
For example, there is a magical darkness and then someone uses spiritual light. What happens then?
Thanks,
Chris
the world's end, please rebirth....
Or it's dark if you are effected by magic.
Just best avoided.
Lee
Hi Lee,
Tombola Clarification
Tailisman of warding - Grants +2 SAC and +2 MAC
Armour of the Dawn - +0 Mantic Armour
Do the magic components of these items work when worn by my priest? Some said they do some say they don’t ������
Stonetop does not have Utilise Magic Item... yet!
for items of mac they work. For weapons/armour you need utilise magic item, for shields lets just avoid the question please.
Lee
Vessel of the spirits is available to those who MR angel of war and buy spiritual evolution. As the race says cannot leave the priest bracket, what happens if a paladin or devout believer buys this option?
they can't buy it as it's not listed for them.
Lee
Hi, sorry if this is covered elsewhere but do psi masters need to buy advanced psionics up the tree in order?
it does not say that they do, nor does it say they don't have to (which other classes do say)
sorry if this has been covered elsewhere many times
thanks
Richard
do I look that cruel? Advance neuronic can be purchased freely.
Lee
Hi Lee,
The below description for Enhanced Weapon Mastery Shield seems to suggest that your max damage grade is increased to Quin. Albeit your still need to also have enough strength or weapon masteries to actually strike for Quin. Could you clarify if that’s the intended meaning. Cheers mate.
From weapon mastery shield and Distancing, as enhanced distancing combat but requires use of an O class weapon
and a large shield (25”+ in diameter). Max DAC=6, as with weapon mastery shield, and now has max damage Quin
unless a Battlemaster.
Ben/Grisham
it has been posted before and changed in version 16.2 of the rules. It says you can't inflict above quin now.
Lee
Hi Lee
A member of Frontline gains an extra warrior specialist. Can this be used as an extra cold rage or war cry if they have already been chosen or purchased?
Thank you
No. Warrior specialists don't stack with themselves.
Lee
A couple of guild questions
Do the new evening forums count in any way towards the upkeep of a guild? If so, how much?
Does the new guild, The Order of Mercenaries, have any tier 1 benefits yet? Does the guild have a guild head or blow up date?
Thank you
No they won't., and the details of TOM will be in the new almanac.
Lee
Hihi
If I cast say plate self on myself and then two minutes later embody an undead (the undead master ability) for 5 minutes what happens to the time remaining on the plate self? Just wondering what happens to things, both beneficial and disbeneficial with time limits, when you embody the dead, or indeed twist the form.
Cheers
Ben
In the case of these two abilities times still run down, but don't effect you as you are the undead.
Lee
What’s he point of Vochstelen? I think I’m missing something or do they just take a lot of work to be anything other than a sub standard warrior?
Am I right in thinking you can take Arch Mage/similar for the innates?
Is there a decent use of Grey Wiz buy as if you can’t gain mana?
Thanks
Think of them like magical spirit warrior warriors. A bit better life but no power, but can get innates if you want.
I would only really see them as a concept character where you have some sudden inspiration.
Lee
Published Vessel of the Dead question. While using Twist the form, does the undead standardly get your resistances and immunities?
Thanks
David
No, you get their stats.
Lee
I notice that in the (not so) new books, Sorcerers no longer have the option of choosing utilise shield as a specialist (as they used to).
Is that an accidental omission, or do they now gain utilise shield as per warlock?
Chris
It's an omission. You can still take it as a specialist.
Lee
Hi,
Can a Evil Druid standardly use a Blessing of the City spirit evocation that grants the ability to become goodly and take a true believer innate to a goodly god? Using the innate and then either dropping the evocation or casting the Blessing again to align to a city where there was no alignment change option or requirement.
Would there be any ramifications if the druid in question was also a Spirit Warrior and member of an evilly aligned church?
I understand that there would be limitation in alignment of miracles, scrolls, and items that could be used but would there be other issues with the Church itself, or would this be on High Priest by High priest basis?
Thanks
Carl
Yes you can cast the evocation to become goodly etc.
For the spirit warrior part it becomes trickier. You stop being the right alignment for your church which means you lose your miracle list etc. If you have a vindictive high priest then they might think choosing to become goodly is an offensive meaning you should be excommunicated. So you probably want to avoid it.
Lee
A quickie:
Am I right in thinking AOF can be used to resist attacks requiring abilities not available to the character.
EG Bob the warrior is hit with an effect requiring Fortified spirit to resist it. Warriors can't standardly buy fortified spirit, so Bob could use one of his AOF innates to resist it.
CHris
You are correct about Act of Faith. However Warrior can get fortified spirit standardly on the tables.
A better example would be Non-Handbook Curses for a warrior.
Lee
Can Calibrim benefit from all of the seven winds? Or do their paralysis innates against magical creatures stop this?
They are magical innates. I can see simple apps to get the winds though.
Lee
If a character becomes immune to physical damage (not effects) then are they also immune to physical healing such as potions, bandaging and Earth Power evocations?
All the published ways of doing this mean you are.
Lee
Hi Lee
Is there an ability for kensai to turn their Ki strikes mantic? I thought it was in the old books but probably wrong
Ta much
Only way ever published is Master of Arms (or Ki-Master as it used to be called).
Lee
At which level of Vessel of the Dragons do you become unaffected/lesser effected by goodly spiritual healing?
Thanks
lvl 1 starts reducing the effect, then you become immune at Lvl 4 (I think it is as don't have the books with me)
Lee
When choosing whether or not to take a dying effect with the standard tables resistance are you aware of what the effect will do or do you have to choose blindly?
you get told it, then can decide. You can't spend time working it out or anything like that. But it does give detail so "dying effect X" "What is X" "it's this" "Ok I'll call over" is ok.
The obvious example is death traumer, what, 10 pens, I'll take it.
Lee
Couple of questions about half athanal
1)can they be druids now with the new rules allowing half elf?
No
2)Does a 1/2 athanal who shuns thier heritage gain a clan as per human
No, humans still don't like them
3)It says the progress as ishmiac humans, does this include the extra level of life that ismiac humans gain?
No, it's just the buy as
4) can they still buy full elf innates?
yes, and other relevant half elf stuff
Thanks
Graham
Lee
Question regarding pathing from priest to something else.
Assuming you are neutral when pathing as a priest do you need to choose either the goodly or evil path or can you just retain your normal use of miracles such as talk to spirit?
You only keep Neutral, so lose Good and Evil
Can you path spiritual mancer and then multi class wizard having a mantic pool of spirits and a separate normal pool of mana along with specialists glyphs?
Yes
If you are say a priest of the runes and a spiritual mancer do you automatically gain mantic versions of the priest of the runes abilities or do you need to pay an additional cost/pointsapp?
No, you need to buy spiritual devotee (I think the name is) to let you cast published miracles mantically from handbook.
Lastly just to clarify when you path you lose the ability to cast non alignment miracles even non mantically?
Correct
Lee
Hi Lee,
if i cast svelts baffling aura can I continue to use a spiritual metal weapon?
does it make a difference if I have imm to aura of defence?
thanks
Richard
It is as written. So Caster no metal, and immunity to aura of defence doesn't help.
It's the downside of the spell.
Lee
What effect does the 3rd level of Winter Elf Innates have on someone with a spirit? Do they grant complete immunity to cold? Or just complete immunity to non-spiritual cold? I have heard both answers from different people.
Depends on how its got, but probably makes them immune to cold.
Lee
Abilities available to those ‘except X’
Is it possible to buy an ability through normal means, and then become an X at a later date because at the time of purchasing it was not a valid restriction? Or is there an (un)written rule that the ability is lost?
Eg - a half athfanel is not inherently a ‘mana user’. They buy T8 ‘the third wind’ to gain 1/2 damage from all purely magic attacks’ and then after that buy “full elf innates” or perhaps MR Full Elf?
Dave
depends on X.
So All bar wizard. You just need to buy as not a wizard.
The winds are different. It is a restriction of the ability rather than the buy as requirement really.
Lee
Can a priest in spirit form apply a damage reduction based on the weapon having a physical component to a spirit mace on account of having Physical presence.
Can the same priest also apply a damage reduction versus solely spiritual damage to the same weapon on account of being immune to Physical damage.
I am assuming he can only apply one - but I'm not sure which one it is... but it could easily also be both (my brain hurts)...
You are only effected by spirit, so the physical component is irrelevant UNLESS the reduction is clearly based on being in a spirit form.
So "While in spirit form I get 1/2 effect any weapon with a physical component" works, otherwise its unlikely to since you are only worried about the spirit world.
It is also, mostly, the world of points apps so depend son their wording.
Lee
Hi
Hollow Bone goblins must be Forest Guardians.
Is there a standard cost for MR Hobgoblin? Do I need to yellow paper it?
Alasdair
There isn't a standard cost as its a non-standard race. It would be a simple couple of lines on an app sheet though.
Lee
Can ‘Disintegrate’ be used to destroy part of something larger than 27 cubic feet?
No
Lee
To what extent are the city / region stats published in the Almanac representative of IC knowledge, or are they entirely OOC?
If you are a character present in a particular city, do the stats reflect "what you see every day" (and thus probably in keeping with your IC perception of the relevant goings-on) or are they official figures from the scribes (which is how I think they used to be explained in the old days of HOTE, but I may be wrong)? My own thinking is the latter, but obviously with people only using this info if they think a particular character would care enough to know / have access to this sort of thing.
For context, this is because obviously SOFE has completely vanished from everywhere and I want to know if that is a real thing (IC they have all disappeared and nothing is happening, where have they gone?) or just what appears in official statistics (IC the scribes say they have all disappeared but that is clearly rubbish as they keep showing up on dungeons, they must have done a rite / whatever to "fool the scribes", lets find out about it, etc)
C
It's a general feel of the area. So if its on the stats then mercenaries can work it out.
For SofE it was a total mistake on my part as I stopped being able to spell.
If there is a sudden drop like that and there wasn't a write up on the boards/in the almanac it is probably a mistake.
Lee
With the Scout ability Read Spiritual Scrolls is it the combined Read Glyphs and Read Language skill level then halved?
Thanks,
Jezz
It is your Read Glyphs level that is halved.
Lee
If you are a pathed Priest/Wizard, would you be able to buy +1 MAC or +1 SAC off the table which is All Except Wiz or All Except Priest as relevant.
Yes as mentioned elsewhere it is the wizard doesn't have the ability to buy it rather than can't use it.
Lee
Hi Lee
Writing new Spell / miracles / evocations or even neuronics, only territory of wizards / priests / Druid’s etc? Or can you write for any class/race that’s has innates and or power?
Anyone with a good justification, but the further from being a wizard etc. you are the less likely it is. So a random person with fully active would be a no on neuronics, but a Silverfolk, or someone that has invested heavily in Elder Fey with Neuronic talents yes.
Potion Facility scout skill allows use of wm again with strength potion does it also let you use neuronics again?
Nope
Dragons Blood potion you take 12/2 physical fire damage as a kick out can you apply against potion stamina skill and/or apply any immunity / resistance.
Many thanks.
Yes you can.
Lee
Hi Lee,
Seeking clarification, when crafting scriptures of the faith, i know you need the relevant sphere, if applicable, to read the scripture, but do you need it to craft it?
Thanks,
Carl
Yes it needs to be one you could learn with points.
Lee
Hi Lee
Is there anything against someone putting their monster point allowance on the character they are playing on a day after the dungeon instead of before it? For example, to stop them going over threshold for the dungeon
Yes, it is dome at the start of the day.
Lee
I’ve got a question regarding MC’ing into the Warrior Bracket and how that interacts with Life Capping.
I’m a Drowe Wizard (Base 29/9 – Life Cap Pre T8 – 44 TBLP) and my mana just isn’t going far enough. I don’t want to get properly stuck in, but I still want to call quad. I decide to MC Archer to Lvl 6 (600 pts) which now puts me in 33/11. I’ve picked up some guild life along the way and I want to start making use of my new warrior subclass buy as to get some stamina +6/2, +12/4 but I’m going to breach my life cap very quickly.
My question is, as I’m now a Warrior Subclass do I use the ‘Warrior subclasses whose base life at 8th level is less than 51…’ calculation. I am a warrior subclass, but I’m only a Lvl 6 Warrior Subclass and if I were to take it to 8th my base life would still be less than 51.
If not, what life-cap should I be using?
You should use Drowe Archer at 6th life.
I have re-read it and its not clear. The intent is for 1st Class Warrior subclasses to be able to buy 24/8 and have some life.
So the "use 51 TBLP" bit is meant only for people that start as warrior subclasses.
Lee
I have a points app that I can buy once per table, but I can only start buying it at table 7.
Does this mean that when I reach table 7 I can only buy it 1 time or can I buy it 7 times?
It probably means seven times on tbale 7, and then tbale 8 and so on. But as an app I'd need to check.
Lee
how does lighting reaction work
is it A makes you imm to damaged when in time freeze
B you can see what happening in time freeze and use a shift or other instant ability
C you can perform a action in time freeze
thanks brodders
A but certain abilities (light step) have comments relating to it.
Lee
Hi Lee
Looking at ‘Darkbane’s Body Building Classes’ table 10 of warrior book.
The Wizard/Warlock MC I wrote states ‘No gain’ for the life column as I saw no point in adding in life as it would be below warrior life. Can I assume it would give 2/1 as extra levels of life thus allow me to buy the above ability to gain 5/2 per level of life?
Thank you (I hope!)
This isn't the place for non-standard questions, but no. If you didn't get a life scale then ELOL's don't give you anything.
However you could buy Darkbane's and then since you can buy ELOL's (even at 0/0) buy them at 5/2.
Lee
Could you walk me through how a Paladin can buy Holy Words, as the text to me seems contradictory.
If someone is Fully immune to flesh and blood, as they don't breathe can they.
a) Use Sniff
Be affected by an Olfactory attack
Might be overthinking this one
Thanks
Ian
You are other thinking it.
Yes they can use sniff, and they are immune to olfactory attacks.
Lee
Brute says all bar troll & ogre, however i am guessing this applies to other races with brute level intelligence e.g. yashtar crol.
Is this right?
Thanks,
Reece
I am going to say yes it should, it is probably because it was out before Yashtar existed.
Lee
Nightsoil Immune to Flesh & Blood, an I correct in assuming this includes Potions and Poisons?
BBB
The clue is in the wording:
They are Immune to beneficial F&B effects. They may purchase ½ effect dis-beneficial F&B for 40 points on Table 3, and may purchase full immunity to F & B (as Angel of War) for an additional 60 points on Table 8.
So yes
Lee
If you pool your racial innates do you then take casting Damage casting them
It depends what your ability says
Lee
Can you use blade sharpening on a apprentice crafted physical +1 weapon?
Cheers
JJ
Yes because it is not supernatural.
Lee
Hi Lee,
Does the Talthar Basic Tier Serenity apply to all types of meditation. E.G - A Vivomancer
Kind Regards,
Stevie
Just spiritual as a base.
Lee
Hello
Can spirit warriors read teaching scrolls to learn new miracles or does this have to be via points because they don’t have free spirits?
Thank you
Yes they can
Lee
If you multi class into an undead do you gain spirit sight?
If you do is it passive or active?
Thanks
[i] No you don't. You only get what is listed in the race.
Lee [/]
Arcanum Status - Stage 1
If I am a first colour blue black wizard does it a) give me a casting level useable on either colour and 3 mana useable on either colour or a casting level useable on either colour and 3 mana useable on each (which is how it reads)
Thanks
Rob
A, it just applies to them, not you get it multiple times
Lee
Aeries foul feast...
It takes 5EP and 5 minutes of eating followed by 5 minutes of disease. These three facts would imply to me it affects everyone choosing to eat from the body but the wording is particularly poor and could be equally only effect one person of the casters choosing (despite not having a target).
Is it Awful or reasonable healing over time - there seems to be some split opinion amongst some fairly decent cavie minds.
Cheers
No it's pretty bad as a base because that was the idea submitted for it.
As an aside I like it as a concept so people have built on it to do good things in the past.
Lee
Are Monster Point items, deemed be created by the person they are assigned to.
In other words could they be used by a Chi Warrior or similar
Cheers
Ian
I think it depends on the item and the character, and what restrictions you are trying to blag around.
Broadly no, but is the best answer.
Lee
If you take aligned elf to level 6 can you buy upgrades as the new colour?
Example. Dark elf gone ebony drave, can you buy immune to magic info spells as an ebony drave.
Cheers
JJ
Yes, you buy as that elf type.
Lee
Hi Lee,
Can an increase in casting levels gained from guilds be used when learning teaching scrolls?
Thanks Andy
A tricky one, I am going to say no and go with the old definition:
On your character card (signed) and applies at all times.
Lee
In Totemic Guardians benefits if a guild member's Shaman / Witchdoctor is not on adventure you can give another Shaman / Witchdoctor there spirits / mana.
Well what I am asking is if your a Tribal Druid who gains fetches from people give power to Shaman / Witchdoctor then could they benefit from the guilds benefit gaining earth power from other members.
Iain
No, because the tribal druid thing is a long way form being established.
If more tribes had druids then I would not be against allowing it in the future.
Lee
I may have missed this topic in my search and if so, apologies.
if I follow a multirace that means that I take 1/6 less physical damage per lvl and am immune by the end of it, what effect does this have on my ability to deal physical damage?
Ben
When you are greater than 1/2 effect you are at -2 max damage for powerbase.
When you become immune you can't inflict it.
Lee
If you are in a Berserk Rage if someone could over come your impressive resistance levels with a Mastery or Domination effect what are the effects broadly based on what the effect does...
Beguile - I assume you would still attack them because you would attack your best friend...
Sp. Mastery - Can they order you out of the rage or just order you to attack new targets?
Possession or similar - the default position is stop and do nothing and not use any abilities so I assume this just ends the Rage?
Cheers
It depends on the domination.
Beguile you'd probably leave them alone, after all you are unlikely to consider them a threat.
Spiritual Mastery you do what you are told, but if its not very direct and obvious the rage would still be relevant.
Possession (and thrall) the puppet effect wins.
Lee
Is it possible to MR to jade elf and onyx elf using aligned elf MR asl long as we are able to provide the rules for it??
Yes
Lee
Am sure this has been asked before.
Armoured Priest says, may wear light and medium armour, they may acquire the ability to wear heavier later.
But no ability appears to be published.
However, would multi classing warrior, now allow the use of heavy armour, even though the general rules state that the disbenefits carry over of one class carry over to the other.
Thanks
it has been answered before, and it is a little more complicated.
Armour use falls into two areas.
A Character is restricted to wearing XXX (So pure priests no armour, Druids, Psi-Classes etc.). This is a class restriciton
A character has the ability to wear XXX (Priests, Wizards and most others).
The first is a restriction so multi-classing doesn't help. The second isn't, so you can.
Lee
Hi Lee,
If when making a hermit list I we're to take pure force and later decided to take a major sphere, would I need to take major foce to keep it, or would I be able to major sphere something else and still be able to keep it?
Cheers!
Rob
You can take a different sphere.
Lee
Would a character gone spiritual mancer and then MR Spiritual Vessel, would they still be able to heal elves?
no, they would do spirit and spirit based mantic.
Like an elf can't kill a wight with a mantic sword.
Lee
How do priests and using magic items work these days?
Is it:
1) They can't.
2) They can but can't use spiritual stuff while carrying
3) They don't get utilise magic item, but if they MC to something that does they're ok
4) A.N.Other option
Cheers!
As it says in the rules they don't get utilise magic item, and can't get it without entering the wizard bracket.
If you are a class that goes priest you can still use them.
Lee
If you have multiclassed into multiple warrior subclasses that an buy warrior specialist skills, can you buy a warcry from each of them?
Example, as a kallah multiclassed ranger and budoka, can you buy a warrior specialist of warcry as a ranger and a second as a budoka?
Nope, its the same skill.
Lee
Can Manaform be cast as a Grey or New Colour Spell?
It falls under the General Spell list which states they can only be cast by the non-grey elemental colours but under colour says ALL (the others say ANY).
If it can be Grey or New Colour how does the verbal work given there are only elementals for the non-grey original elemental colours?
BBB
yes it can, and use something appropriate just like the pact with the dragon verbals.
Lee
If a law abiding character immune to all forms of scrying is party killed, is the character who pk’d them still outlawed?
If an outlawed character is now immune to all scrying and is then party killed due to their outlaw status, is their killer outlawed as no one can tell the outlaw was actually outlawed?
Sorry for the number of ‘outlaw’ terms in this. I hope no one searches ‘outlaw’ now!
If you party kill someone that isn't a freebie you get outlawed.
Lee
When spending ISP, it states that you can buy an item of abilities from tables 1-9 as long as they are appropriate to the threshold of the dungeon you’re on. What it doesn’t state is whether they have to be from tables which your character could normally buy from.
I.e. if I had a warrior priest at 600 points, could he buy an item of +1 and +2 max AC from the warrior tables?
Clearly items of spell innates etc don’t follow class rules but unsure on the tables abilities side of things.
Thanks
If refs are setting it then it would be based on the table of the dungeon.
If a player is using flexi ISP (Dealer, Adventurer class etc.) then it is based on their table.
Lee
Quick question about DAC whilst bound per the spell. I've had conflicting opinions as to whether you can apply DAC against weapon blows in that scenario and would appreciate some clarity!
Thanks
Yes you can.
Broadly if you can move you can apply DAC, so a slow (for example) doesn't stop you using DAC.
The only exception to this is Gravity Well, which says you lose your DAC.
Lee
Can hannot buy bound to the city??
I don't have the book here, in general if you have a restriction and an ability needs you to take a restriction then you can't.
However in the case of Hanot and city bound then they can, but I'd just go Kallah.
Lee
Can a grey warden buy Trust of the Spirit realm for the free 8th level miracle?
Also given that grey wardens are now just a special case of hermit priest and can be any type of priest (warrior, armoured etc.). Is it intentional that they are still excluded from buying change priestly class, or can they buy it as per a normal hermit priest?
They can, but need the ability to cast 8th level.
And it was just missed, they can buy it now if they want.
Lee
When buying innate neuronics from the class table such as para psychic or the seer one,
do the innates stack so could by N pen from both seer and mystic tables.
If you are already 1st class neuronicst do you count as 1st class for innates that say +1st class i.e. Seer going parapsychic buying a +1st class mystic innate
Miles
You buy the best of the innates, they don't stack up.
And no, Its 1st class Mystic to buy 1st class mystic stuff.
Lee
does a mercenary know they have vitae?
can you IC feel any loss of Vitae even if it is taken without dying?
It depends on the roleplay and what is happening.
Lee
Hi Lee
If I'm building an evil stairway for an unholy champion, it says that you must have at least one of each preceding miracle on that list. It also says that you can only have miracles on the miracle list of the church to which you are aligned.
So, if (for instance) I were looking at being part of Iron and Empire as an UC with a summoning stairway, Iron and Empire have zombie, skeleton, ghoul and wraith but are missing mummy.
Could I therefore have an evil stairway that allows me to summon all of zombie, skeleton, ghoul and wraith or would I have to stop at Ghoul because there is no mummy on their list?
Thanks
Ben
It is probably not very clear.
You need to buy all of the tree (so include mummy in the example), but the general theme must follow the church (so taking a necromancy list for a Dunatis priest is out). The being on your church list is more for advanced miracles rather than parts of the basic trees.
Lee
Do focussed spirit (1/2 off miracles of opposite alignment) and greatness of spirit (1/2 off spirits of opposite alignment) stack? Heard different answers when I have asked different people.
Cheers,
Mark
No they don't.
Lee
Can characters other than the owner benefit from the effects of a haven cp? If yes, could a dead body be taken here to perm the character since they would be immune to any rescue abilities?
Cheers,
Mark
The owner benefits from it.
Lee
Can a Tivorian Human join a church even tho they cannot benefit from professional guilds ?.
Thanks Iain
Yes, but they wouldn't count for guild specials or anything.
Lee
Hi Lee
A number of questions around summonations and max AC.
If you cast something like Superplate on an elemental, how much MAC does it get (what is its max AC) or if you have a miracle that grants SAC to max AC and cast it on your ghoul, what SAC does it get?
If you have an ability that says your summonation can benefit from any worn armour, I assume this is to a max of 12 (as normal)?
(Basically, I am a Vessel of the Dead and use a Twist to become a ghoul. I am wearing plate over chain that is MC and have an ability that says all my undead get 3 DAC and 3 PAC. Am I okay saying I am in PAC 12 and DAC, max AC12?)
Thanks
David
The embodies undead would use your Max A/C.
Lee
Hi Lee,
The post 8th development section of Silver Folk says that they are able to buy the table 6 ability enhancements at 200pts, there is no caveat that this only applies to 1st class neuronicists, although the ability in Oraculum Insight does have the 1st class restriction.
Is a non 1st class neuronic Silver Folk able to buy the table 6 enhancement, although only for Neuronic Penetration as thats the only 1-8th they have.
Thanks,
Carl
It doesn't change their buy as, it just lets them buy earlier.
it comes form the days when the only real things on table 6 were the passive and active trees.
Lee
If you are deaf are you immune to Wardpacts?
What about if you are on another plane when the wardpact is announced so you dont hear it?
Does the Know Foe spell make you immune to Wardpacts from the person you have cast it on?
If you are deaf you still take the pact. Likewise standing there with your fingers in your ears going lalala when you know a person is announcing a pact with you mean syou get caught by it.
Being off the plane means you are safe.
And know foe doesn't protect you as it isn't targeting you.
Lee
What happens to a character when they are strength drained to zero please?
To zero they just have no strength.
below zero it depends on the effect as they are mostly non-standards. Normally you either fall unconscious or suffer as per the 5 minute stage of a disease (but its not a disease) if the ref is nice.
Lee
Hi Lee
The Shadow Daimon multirace at level 2 says: must purchase the ability" see through supernatural darkness at all times " ability before buying this level.
If I were a dwarf or other race who can already see through darkness already, do I still need to buy this?
If you have the prerequisite already (so dwarf in this case) you don't need to rebuy it.
Same is true for all similar races.
And before you ask no an item of MAC 1 does not replace the need to buy MAC 1 off the tables.
Lee
So demon slayer
If you do not know someone is a demon kind and there immune to all info fx/you can’t find out? Do you get the points tax?
Same question with goodly demons does the restriction apply?
You need to know they are a demon, not checking isn't an excuse though.
System wise Demonkind are evil. If they are goodly then they are Angelkind.
Lee
As a follow up to Pete's question, can you avoid a wardpact by planeshifting just before the end of the declaration, even if you hear the beginning of it?
Cheers,
Mark
When you realise its a pact it is too late
Lee
Im sure I know the answer, but if Im making advanced armour/weapons, can I make them in advance and get peoples character names signed on when they buy the item?
Ta
Pete
Unless you are using something that requires them to be personalised at the time correct.
Lee
Tivorian Humans, one of the options is Pheka which allows you to use "Touch of the Cycle" 1/15 minutes.
How does this work? Is it only usable on a corpse or is it useable offensively and if so, what does it do?
Thanks
Ben
It is on a corpse, and acts like Corruption (I think that's the right name) that is post 6th Undead master (in the classes book).
Lee
If I path from Pure Priest to Wizard and then multi-class to sorcerer does the mana stack or do you just get the highest mana pool of the two? ie 72 mana for wizard at 8th?
Highest mana.
Lee
Hi Lee
Does ‘Counter Mastery All Weapons’ count against any of the following please?:
Unarmed combat
Thrown weapons
Machine propelled
Thank you
yep applies to all of them.
Lee
Witch doctor multiclassing, books says they have different options, does that mean they can MC as either Witch doctor or wizard or just witch doctor.
Does there colour restrictions apply to second colours
Miles
It is probably an oversight.
Witchdoctors use the witchdoctor table, but if the obvious wizard classes of:
Archmage
Mana Vortex
Focal Mage
Thaumaturge
Disenchanter
Are missing they use the wizard cost.
For second colouring I am happy with anything, it is just starting colour that has the restrictions.
Lee
Is there a comprehensive list somewhere of the standard spells and miracles that undead are immune to?
(As a side question, are undead immune the Thrall / Limb Thrall?)
Thanks
David
Nope, sorry. If anyone was crazy enough and had time to put it together I'm happy to review it and put it up as a post.
And no they are not immune.
Lee
Hi Lee
Equipment that is Apprentice/journeyman/master status, are they still immune to the effect if mantic?
So an apprentice crafted sword is immune to shatter spell and mantic shatter?
Thanks
Yep immune regardless of the source.
Lee
Hi Lee
Can Baronies neuronic users both join the circle and take imperial seer status?
Thanks
No.
Lee
Does worship of a proscribed faith only make you ostracised within the Empire? Asking for a friend.
Its a crime, but not always automatic Ostracism.
Much like killing an NPC noble is a crime but you still need to be caught.
That said when a guild becomes involved it changes a bit, especially Black Guilds.
Lee
Can an Armoured Priest / Pure Priest that has MR Spiritual Vessel to become purely spiritual use unarmed combat?
Thanks
David
Not standardly
Lee
Goblin racial strength restriction. Dose strength from guild benefits like from TG break this restriction?
Nope, Goblins can never have more than + 1 strength
Lee
Berserkers:
Do berserkers get a warrior subclass buy as or are they an exception? Are they're still in the warrior bracket even if they don't?
Given there are no 1st class berserkers, how does one get access to the fury "66% rage" on table 9?
Thanks,
Pete
They do get it.
Go 8th Level Berserker? its just left on because there are still some 1st class berserkers out there.
Lee
If a spirit warrior / wayfinder takes a class that gives them spirits they cant use (i.e. spiritual healer), does their total heal cap increase?
Pete Long
No, total heal cap is based on your base spirits per level.
Lee
In the Priest book. The hermit priest builds as per a church right? Does he gain the free 7th level miracle seeing as he can't get 8th.
I was told there was a mistake in the book and the hermit cannot take the free 7th level miracle. Example suspend life.
Josh
It should be cannot take a free miracle, you can buy it post 8th for 15 points though.
Lee
Hey Lee,
I'm thinking of starting up an 'Arbalest' and had a few questions that I can't find covered elsewhere..
Is it only 1st class Archers that get no max damage over 10' with MP? What about MC Archers or those that MC Archer and take it to 8th? If the answer is still no, can someone who has taken MC Archer to 8th use one of the 'Buy as 1st class slots' to get this ability? (probably pts app territory?)
Do the max damage increases a scout gets with the Military Scout tendency (Max Damage 7 @ T10) mean they can call that within 10'? I note regular 1st class archers are limited to quin within 10'.
Many thanks!
Stefan
All Archers (1st and 2nd class) get the same max damage.
And yes Military scout max damage is regardless of distance.
Lee
Hi Lee
For shields
Option 1. having just a handle to hold them "punch-grip"
Option 2. Attached by placing arm in strap then holding it on the 2nd strap with straps connected to a block that rests on your arm
for shields under option 2 stated above.
Due to the way that they are connected more to the arm than the hand hand do abilities like Slippery Grip, disarm, fumble like abilities stop the use of a "option 2" shield?
Obviously with Punch-gripped option 1 shields the abilities would work
Thanks in advance
They still work, try and get them off as best you can.
Lee
Hey lee
if I had the ability to change my alignment (like the neuronic ability) and i made an isp item of ley believer to an evil church and my base alignment was neutral would I be able to buy ley believer to that evil church at the end of the dungeon or would i not have to or what would happen?
Adam
You can't make Ley Believer/Hang On items with ISP.
But if you had an item of it you'd get Excommunicated when your alignment stops being the right alignment.
Lee
Does EP damage exist or is it always physical? I know the published EP evocations inflict physial damage but it gets murky when you have divine, all power base or "slayers" damage.
EP damage is just physical damage.
Lee
Reading the Spiritual Celebrant multiclass which refers to Suspend Life as a miracle releasable upon death of the caster. To this end, if someone was unconscious from a suspend life miracle, what would be the impact of the caster’s death? I am guessing they regain consciousness and have suffered 36/5
The miracle ends so you wake up, you don't take any life as that is an effect of having a resistance.
Lee
Hi,
Are there general in-game disbenefits for being forced to leave a church, excommunicated, or willingly leaving a church, if different? Or is this something that is at the High Priest/ess discretion?
Thanks
Carl
Being Excommunicated causes you to lose access to all miracles on the churches list. It may be worse than this for certain churches based on peoples apps.
If you want to leave you either need the high priests permission or you are treated as if you have been excommunicated.
Lee
I remember an ability for monks and I think halflings called something like ‘Hard Feet’ which represented their lack of footwear.
Does this ability still exist as I cannot find it in any of the rule books?
Ta much
It was called Toughed Feet, and its not been around for a long time.
Lee
Lee, do Ratfolk priests have to use the slavik list, or could they use another churches list. I,e, a Ratfolk Warrior Priest of Mortai?
its as listed in the rule book. Slavik or weak hermit.
They could buy the align to faith ability on the tables though.
Lee
Hi Lee,
Foul touch + causing miracles can they be inflicted/released in the same touch?
For example Cause Grevious - touches monster with both hands to release the miracle do they take a 6pt foul touch from each hand?
If it is the case it can be done what is the best way to 'Call' said effect?
Cheers
Phil
You call what you are doing, yes it may be a mouthful. Just remember without an ability to do different you are limited to doing "Quad" with anything like that.
Lee
Hi Lee,
The class description of High Druids shows that standardly they have no weapon skills but it doesn't explicitly mention that they have a no weapon use restriction as per pure priests or high wizards. Is this correct?
Assuming it is, they could MC Ranger for example and pick up the weapon skills and weapon usage from there?
Thanks,
Carl
They are like pure priests, so can't use weapons.
Lee
I am a Brown Mancer and I cast Earth Shield, can I continue to cast spells Mantically or do I lose access to my mana?
yes because its mantic mana, so you need mana to cast to make it mantic.
Lee
A couple of questions i have been meaning to ask:
If a troll goes L.2 fire demon (granting complete immunity to fire), can it make full use of this, or is it downgraded to the T.3 resistance, ie only granting 1/2 effect supernatural fire?
Alfar druids gets better life than human druids (42/ 18 at 8th),presumably because they get rec earthpower and other druidic stuff racially. Alfar forest guardians get worse life than humans (47/ 16). If this a printing error or are Alfar meant to be great druids but poor forest guardians?
Lastly, Elemental Champion, the T.9 1st class warlock ability. Does it apply to all colours possessed, or just the warlocks 1st colour?
Thanks dude!
Chris
Fire demon. No they can't, troll restriction takes precedent.
Alfar druids should have less life, its an error. I think it carries form changes to scout life. It should be 37/14 at 8th.
And elemental champion is all colours.
Lee
Hi Lee
for the ability Hanger On
do the guild pre-requisites matter?
do you have to follow the Ethos?
do guild restrictions / rules apply?
or are you just some "thing" that wanders around with the guild so they might as well get the +1 member to the tally if the guild master lets you
thanks in advance
You are bound by the ethos, and restrictions. You can just use it if you aren't the right class, or can't join guilds etc.
Lee
Can non-outlawed Ancient Folk be Yeoman with need for YP?
It would be an app, but doable.
Lee
Was there a clarification stopping multiple castings of Com IV and Com V? So multiple minor/major prayers every 15 mins?
Thanks
Stuart
No, but it (and several other things like it) are likely to get changed when the handbook comes out.
I haven't done it as it effects such a small number of people.
Lee
Hello,
Iv'e realised that I really don't know what the rules are on this any more. (and as occasional desk staff I probably should)
Who can/can't restore someone to life? People on same adventure/desk staff???
I've had it dealt with in many ways by previous GSM, but an official clarification would be good!
Also is there a place where all this sort of stuff is/should be? Or is it already all in the handbook!?
Was having a similar talk at the weekend about "stacking points apps", and I think it's important that this info is readily available for existing, but especially new players.
Thanks
Paul
If you are involved in the dungeon (on any side) you can't get involved except as characters being played on the day.
If you are desking/armouring you can't involved in dungeons on that day and stuff that comes out of them.
If we think you are abusing it then you can't do it.
Lee
3 part question
1) can you use counter / contra mastery against a pure weapon?
part 2 if the answer is no
2) can you use counter / contra mastery against a pure weapon if you are wielding a weapon with the same power as the pure weapon?
if no to part 2
3) can you use counter / contra mastery against a pure weapon if you are using a pure weapon of the same power?
Yes to question one.
Lee
Hi Lee
A couple from me that have come up recently if I may!
It says in the races book that dwarves are not adversely affected by the use of darkness or light designed to obscure normal vision. It then goes on to specify a few key spells but is this limited to those? Or is their ability more akin to the “see through all forms of supernatural darkness” ability and would cover spiritual darknesses as well?
And the Of the North guild ability immunity to all forms of cold, does this cover a wraith’s freeze touch as well?
I’ve had adamant views to the positive and negative from very experienced players so totally confused now
Thanks
Ben
For dwarves it does let you see through supernatural darkness, but also makes you immune to blinding flash and bedazzle for example.
Yes complete immunity to all forms of cold makes you immune to freeze (so of the north or winter elf for example).
Lee
Hi Lee
Am I right in thinking that ‘ogres’ that we start as players are actually ‘half ogres’ (Ogre/Human). They seem to be referred to as both
Thank you
Makes no real difference beyond roleplay.
Lee
I am a Chi Perfect monk - with a Grand Tan can I destroy;
1) Any item with a physical component
2) Only items that are completely physical because I can’t affect other power bases?!
I am adamant it is 1 and ALL similar abilities (Druid Disintegrate Supernatural) would work under the same grounds but just want an official ruling here everyone can agree on.
Thanks
Option 1, and others dependant on how they work.
Lee
Howdy,
Can I check how specifically Circle someone has to be to count for a valdstayn.
Human with the circle stats clearly, but what about non-humans or other characters in Claws etc.
Cheers,
Pete
Have to be in the circle, as per baronial class. Being in claws or a Blauz wizard doesn't count.
Lee
Hi Lee,
You have confirmed previously that Champion of Nature, and in turn Natures Wrath druidic abilities (immunity to natural elements and half effect supernatural aspect of elemental attacks) covers red/green/blue/brown/white and to a lesser extent black.
Would the 2 combined be a sufficient pre-req. the new October Alamanac ability 'Magical Resistances to 'Element''?
Thanks,
Carl
Nope.
Lee
HI
Question about amour.
What are the armor values now?
and what about layering i heard this is possible now?
so wondering what plate over chain would be?
I cant find any info about armor and values in books.
Thanks
Terry Daniels
They are in the handbook.
Lee
Current version of Evolution:Classes doesn't appear to have costs for multiclass INTO Grey Knight.
Am I missing something?
No one has really ever applied for Grey knight multi-classes so when the books got redone there weren't any.
Lee
Just wanted to confirm as the ability is as per chameleon and chameleon is a bit Vague..
Taking damage causes a stealth / chameleon to break be it casting damage or a AOE
Yes.
Lee
Hi Lee
1. In scrolls does a ! count as a full stop or just a space?
2. also as i finally up'ed my casting ability to any spells and used Saber of Light and Truth for the first time recently. what would be the recommend damage type to call out as pure magical double / b'stard triple and saber light and truth 2 hit blast was a bit of a mouth full per swing
thanks in advance
For 1 assuming you mean where ! is part of the spell verbal its a full stop.
2 Generally Sabre Quad works.
Lee
Hey Lee
If I am wearing +0 spirit armour, is there a tables ability that means it applies vs. a "pure spirit quad through"?
Fortitude means you can apply PAC vs weapons with a physical component and spiritual celerity means you can apply SAC vs weapon blows
Is the answer "pure spirit through" shouldn't be set?
Thanks
David
Since its likely to be a non-standard I'd check with the ref. Normally I'd say fortitude applies.
There is immunity to accuracy on the tables as well separately.
Lee
Can you cast telekenetics whilst in neuro form?
Cheers
Ben
No
Lee
Mind over reality MR states 1/6 off all bar physical and neuronic per level. And post 6th may buy as spiritless.
Does this mean complete immunity to magic and spirit at lvl 6. Or just immune to magic and spirit damage?
Cheers,
Sean
Complete immunity at 6th.
Lee
What are the current rules on leaving a church? I cant find them in my copy of Words from Above.
you need the high priests permission and then need to put a notice up as with any other guild.
Or leave without the high priests permission and get excommunicated.
Lee
Rogues buy from the Wizards Grimoire as "Any" but extra specialists are only available to Wizard.
Thus the only way published way for a Rogue to get additional Spell Slots is to Multi-class Elemental Student for the ones it grants, as then they can then as Wizard.
Or am I missing something?
I presume that if choosing to Mulit-class Wizard you would gain a second set of 5 Specialist slots as a Wizard and could buy additional specialist for Wizard but not Rogue.
Asking for a friend.
Correct Rogues need to do something to get more specialists.
If you multi-class wizard the wizard mana replaces rogue mana, and you don't get more specialists.
Lee
Hi Lee.
Was just wondering. I was thinking of starting a berserker for the 250 new year's dungeon.
But I'm at a pickle because I don't know if Barbarian would work as the tribal race. It says that barbarians are as human. But do they get the MC slot off Privileged?
Just wanted to make sure as I need to know if playing a berserker would be possible for then.
Thank you.
Josh.
Barbarians aren't human for privileged.
Lee
Can you clarify for me, if you are making a spiritual item with 2 of the same miracle in it how many roles do you have to make? Let's say 2 heals? The manufacturer's guide says that would be 4 rolls so only cost 12,000 grulls, assuming they all succeed, the same price as 1 heal. This can't be right can it?
Probably an error. Its 1 success per spirit of miracles you are making. So 1 heal is 4 rolls at -4%, and 2 heals is 8 rolls at -8%.
Lee
Hi lee,
Do CP ‘possession’ blow up on death?
So it’s a theme day and I want to buy a business with MPs do I need to spend 500 to make it DNBUOD?
Thanks, Andy
No
Lee
Can you use tempo type abilities on powers that last less than 5 mins? So for instance, if I have “freeze at will” for 30 seconds or the 10 secs walk through walls that is on the tables etc?
Thanks
David
No
Lee
Hi Lee, is there any general rule on buying 1st class abilities as a second class char.
E. G. I am a totally standard warrior priest who has mcd warrior. I want to buy contra mastery bustard swords.
Can I buy it a table later than the 1st class versio ? Or two tables later? Or does it require a points app?
Thanks
Standardly you can only buy 1st class abilities once you take a class to 8th level, and then you get a limited buy as (its detailed in the Classes book).
Lee
Does titan fractional reductions vs weapon blows apply vs. effects carried by weapon blows as well?
Cheers,
Pete
General no.
Lee
Hi Lee
Do Focused Spirit (T10) and Greatness of Spirit (T12) stack please?
If they do not stack, can you just:
A. Upgrade for 250 points
B. Get a simple 1 line points app to upgrade
C. Take the 200 point hit and buy GoS?
Thank you
Andy
They don't stack, they are different abilities not upgrades.
Lee
Contra Mastery Vs Weapons says "From Counter Weapon Mastery and Contra Mastery x 3....." can I confirm that you only need 1 Counter Mastery not 3?
I dont think it is possible to buy more than 1 counter anyway?
That being said it also says that you cannot buy both counter and contra mastery - but you have to to get contra vs weapons?
You only need one counter mastery.
The contra mastery error was clarified a couple of years ago, it is a misprint from an older version of it. I think it has been changed in the latest books.
Lee
So, a sorcerer MC's wizard.
He gains the wizards colour as a first colour, and can buy 2nd (and third) colour as wizard, right? Or am i getting a bit @Ryan Kelly here?
Second colour isn't asterixed so you can only buy it once. So you could get 3 colours plus sorcery, not get sorcorial second colours as well as wizards.
Lee
Hi Lee
Thought I knew the answer to this one but have then had conflicting opinions on it. Can a spiritless elf scout gain the recognise spirit ability? I know they can't use anything spiritual so had assumed they couldn't even sense one but have been told that's not the case!
Thanks
Ben
No they can't
Lee
I have heard rumour the +1 Casting Level from the Genie table at the desk can be used as a level of effect for priests - seems very much a wizard ability but happy to use it that way if it was indeed the intent.
Thanks
It's a wizard ability.
Lee
Hey man,
Can you confirm how, if at all, undead are effected by someone with a mantic pass unknown up
Chris
They are effected as written.
A Mantic pass unknown grants immunity to spirit sight.
Lee
Hi Lee
Do the 12 spirits you can gain as the major power from Angel Touched cost life to use? They are racial and racial innates typically do not cost life but they are a power pool rather than innates so it isn’t clear
Thanks
David
They do cost life as they are raw power.
Lee
So yay, more "discussions" been ongoing about mantics.
Only thing I've not been sure about is shields.
Ive always thought a warrior without utilise spirit can still use a mantic shield to block a purely spiritual attack?
Likewise an elf can use a magic shield to block a purely mantic attack.
Based on shields basically being the same as AC items and not needing the utilise skill?
Is this correct?
Cheers,
Sean
Broadly correct. Don't over think it too much.
Lee
With the change to the dual class warrior subs all getting buy as 1st class warrior sub in the last almanac dose this also aply to forest guardians who take militant?
Cheers
No
Lee
Does Empower Spirit (24 Hour Enhance Spirit) go above Life Cap?
Does Empower Spirit cast by someone else on me go above Life Cap? (En Garde suggests that as it's a blessing cast by another player it does)
Does Enhance Spirit go above life cap?
Yes it does.
Lee
What happens if a wizard reads a teaching scroll and then buys an ability later that means they lose the ability to read them?
I would have thought logically you read it and then have learnt the spell, so if later you lose the ability you don’t ‘forget’ what you have learnt, but some reliable folks have said it doesn’t work that way...
Thanks
Dave H
They lose them.
Lee
On Table 10 both Mystics and seers can buy enlighten thoughts, which allows them to cast a 1st - 8th lvl inate 1 per 15 mins without using the innate, does that innate need to be a class innate from mystic or seer or ant neuronic innate the the payer gets 1st to 8th?
It needs to be a class innate from that class.
Lee
Maybe obscure, maybe ‘don’t overthink it’ or maybe an easy answer:
Character has perm rage vs undead. Monster/NPC is undead but immune to scrying. Does the rage kick in or not?
Same monster/NPC. Character has 6 points off undead, does this work as the monster seems to fight like an undead?
Same again but character inflicts +1 grade of damage vs undead. Does this still happen as again the monster fights like an undead?
Thank you
So:
1) Kicks in if you engage the undead in combat
2) It applies
3) It applies
Lee
Destructive Thoughts, on T10 for Mystic says they can use 1 1st - 8th ability once per 15 mins does this need to be from the mystic list or could it be a racial neuronic innate?
Or if MCed to another neuronic class could it be a 1st -8th innate from that class?
It has to be from mystic.
Lee
1) For priests and spirit-using warriors (Pal/GW/AP), their ability to utilise spirit weapons/armor is always tied to the item having an alignment which is compatible.
However, the Manufacturers Guide (looking at 4.1 of 2014) shows that adding alignment to a spirit weapon/armor is a "Major" manufacture, rather than just a "Minor" manufacture.
Does that mean that a character with only Make Minor Spirit Item can produce unaligned spirit weapon/armor?
Or does it mean that Make Minor Spirit Item is unusable without also having Make Major Spirit Item?
Or does it mean that Make Minor Spirit item can be always be used to make weapons/armor of the crafters own alignment, and Make Major is required to make spirit items of either of the other two alignments?
Does Words From Above clarify this?
2) Can an evil or good character use a Neutral Spirit weapon/armor?
Can a neutral character use Good or Evil spirit weapon/armor?
Or is it always only possible to use a spirit weapon/armor of your own alignment?
Thanks
By default manufactured weapons/armour/shields are neutral.
Priests can utilise their own miracles of alignments normally. So a goodly priest good and neutral, evil priest is evil and neutral, and a neutral priest depends on what they have.
Lee
On the September 3 day last year and again on your campaigns this year you have posted the following for your (and therefore the system's in my mind ) standard damage calls:
Thru - Thru PAC, if the weapons pure then goes thru MAC/SAC etc as relevant
Predicted - Ignored DAC
Regardless - Both of the above.
Necro - Can do Spirit damage
'Mantic - Can't do spirit damage
What would be the call for mantic that can't do magic damage (a non-pathed spirit user wielding a mantic weapon)?
Thanks
Nibs
I have no idea. It probably needs one. So if anyone has an idea then I'm all ears.
Just like we probably need a term for Neutral angel/demonkind (which I have for the new handbook) and a few other things.
Lee
If I wizard with a mantic plate on him cast a magical earth shield does the mantic plate remain granting the sac and pac or does it go down.
Miles
It remains
Lee
If in magic / spiritual / neuronic LTM do you have to be healed by that power base to regain consciousness?
Or can you still be healed by other power bases as not actually fully immune to them, just tblp?
Sean
People are over complicating it.
You can be healed normally because the power base still effects you and heals you normal life, which is what you need healed.
Lee
Trolls may not acquire more than +3 DAC. Does this mean that:
a - Trolls are capped at 3 DAC, and cannot benefit from any more in any way
b - Trolls may only purchase the first 3 points of DAC from the tables, but can benefit from bonus DAC from elswhere (Guilds, Bless/Curse/Watchings, Items etc.)
c - Mystery Third option.
Thanks,
Thom
option Bish, just don't try and get loads of DAC from classes/etc.
Basically 3 dac from abilities, a bless/chosen, then guilds and items is fine.
Lee
Does the first wind apply to:
1. Force-trap, since it is a forcewall around you and you would be stopped by a forcewall
2. Bind since it affects your footwear and not you
Cheers,
Mark
yes because the spell targets you. If its targeted and not damaging/has a non-damaging element it applies.
Lee
Would a purely spiritual creature be able to walk through a 'mantic Walll Of Stone?
If they had walk through walls (so a wraith) yes.
Lee
Just to understand this properly...
I think I read:
Can have 3 DAC
_And also_ benefit from a bless
_And also_ benefit from guilds/items
So Bob the Troll gains 3DAC from tables, 2 from a bless/chosen, 1 from Front Line, and gains an item of +1DAC, then Bob can use 3 (capped) +2, +1, +1 = 7 DAC
(I had expected the opposite: you have 7 DAC but this is capped after other calls to allow you only to benefit from 3)
Do I have this right (DAC7 in this case)?
Al
Yes. The restriction is a buy as restriction not a "Cannot have more than" restriction.
Lee
Hi lee,
If in a stealth does solitaire still apply assuming your not breaking the restrictions?
If yes, does it also apply if in another form of chameleon?
Thanks Andy
yes
Lee
Sorry lee,
From my last question would it also make you immune to perception/super natural perception?
Or is perception/ super natural perception just a ‘feeling’ rather than a power based observation?
Thanks again, Andy
no they are not supernatural sights.
Lee
Hello Lee,
Does the ability 'Non Academis' apply to all pathfinder subclasses or just pathfinders? I'm pretty sure it's just pathfinders but wanted to make sure.
Thanks,
Nick.
As a general rule if the buy as says Pathfinder it is just pathfinder and those classes that buy as pathfinder.
Lee
Can wizards go magical artisan? If so how much?
yes, and it says 500 to 6th in 16.3
Lee
Lee couple of spell interactions I'd like an answer to (mostly to win arguments)
1.) I cast a know foe
- Can an opponent summon a magical weapon (Sword of Power/Sabre) and beat me to death with it
2.) I have a passive dispel 6 on myself
- I get hit by a sword of power, does it get dispelled?
3.) I have a passive dispel 6 on myself
- An unbound shade child hits me, does it get dispelled
Thanks
Stevie
Easy:
Yes
Yes
Yes, assuming it was summoned with the black spell and not the grey one.
Lee
Enhanced Passwall–Passwall is now at will, this costs 6 TBLP per use.
Mastery of Passwall–One use of passwall now allows the Samila to walk through earth/stone walls (this includes worked stones) for 5 minutes.
Because Ryan won't shut up about this - the above are the standard (and possibly over powered for points costs) abilities that Samila can buy, I assume because they are in 29/9 and can do very little.
To my reading - the first ability grants pass wall @will, the second enhances it so that it grands walk through walls for 5 mins. As the commonly accepted wording for 1/day powers is as an example:
Physical Beguile1/day–As per the miracle, but requires 60 seconds talking to the target to activate.
And the wording for at will ablites is this:
Mastery of the Touch–Use of the touch now only causes the loss of ½ a level.When successfully used it additionally causes 12 points of magical cold baseddamage to the location touched and the equivalent TBLP (4 hits to monsters).
I have interpreted this to be an at will ability but as Ryan was sad about his fire Goblin he doesn't think it works this way.
It saddens me a little. It is one use, so just a badly worded once a day.
Lee
Hi Lee
Invisibility Specialist means you can't be seen by elemental sight
If you cast a mantic Invisibility and have Invisibility Specialist does that mean you cannot be seen by spirit sight as well?
Thanks in advance
No it doesn't, but would be a cheap upgrade.
Lee
Does a mantic prot vs all spirits prevent an elven wizard from blinking across it?
Cheers,
Mark
If they are effected by the prot yes.
Lee
Hi Lee
If my character is immune to F&B, I can't drink potions - all clear.
Can I rub scent inhibitor on my skin or strengthening salve?
Thanks
David
Nope, nada.
Lee
Hi Lee,
I have a goodly pathfinder with the skill utilise single spirit item. Does this mean I can use goodly AND neutral spiritual items?
Thx in advance,
Ben
Yes
Lee
So,
"City Positions"
How are these gained/allocated!?
Cc's or the Governor or correct responsible person just saying it's so!?
Yes.
Broadly the Governor/relevant person can appoint people.
If you want to escalate, or the Governor doesn't like you, then you can do a CC contract to put pressure on the person. If they refuse to appoint you then bad stuff happens to them. This will only work with vacant positions, or those under threat though.
Lee
Hey Lee,
Immunity to info fx, what should you’d say in response to someone using a info power on you? For years I thought it was ‘No Answer’ but recently was told the answer should just be ‘No’
What should we be declaring if we’re fully immune to info fx?
Thanks
Jack
Depends on the effect but "No" is likely to be right.
And there isn't a "No Answer" because often by default No and No Answer are the same.
Lee
Adding to Jack's question, if I use a major prayer on someone immune to comms, "How do I best kill you?", what would the answer be?
Something like "kill who" or "there isn't a way" depending on it was asked, and if you can see them.
Lee
Lee
If I start as a warrior and MC priest and also want to path, can I:
1. MC to 8th priest and then path to 8th wizard (as pathing doesn't count toward brackets and a max of 1 MC to 8th)
2. MC to 8th priest and only to 6th wizard
3. MC to 6th priest and then path to 8th wizard (as an alternative option)
Thanks
David
If i understand you right you can do all three.
Lee
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