Noob Feedback, Making the system easier for the outsider |
Noob Feedback, Making the system easier for the outsider |
Mar 6 2011, 03:37 PM
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Hi guys,
I know you're quite keen to hear from newbies about how you can make it easier for us to get into Labyrinthe, so I thought I'd offer a couple of suggestions on the publications. Obviously, they need to be written in a reasonable amount of jargon, and a stubborn mite like me will be quite happy to persevere with this. I think quite a lot of people might have been put off by this though, and I do think that a beginners' guide would really benefit the club. Without meaning to sound rude, there are several bits that are ambiguous due to dodgy grammar* and this could be quite easily resolved and make the information more easily digestible. I've also found several instances where skills have been described as having the same effect as another, from a different skill set. For example, I was reading through my Druid handbook last night, and one skill was claimed to be an EP-user version of a Wizard spell. There was no explanation of what this actually meant, so in order to fully understand the Druid handbook, one must cross-reference with the Wizards' handbook. To an experienced player this might be fine, but as someone struggling to get to grips with the system in its most basic form this is a real nuisance. It would be fab if you could look at putting descriptions in full, rather than requiring the reader to cross reference. Furthermore, the idea of cross-referencing skills between handbooks is only possible if you actually have all of the handbooks. If we need to constantly hop between publications to make sense of what is meant by the one we wish to play, can I advise that you look in to some way of making it easier to complete the set? I know you said that to publish the entire catalogue in one document was not feasible, and I can certainly see why, but why not consider selling a copy of each class's handbook in a bumper pack for a slightly lower price? I've decided to pick and choose as I can only play non-combat characters, but had a complete set been available I would certainly have favoured that. I like complete sets, me. Finally, something that would be really useful would be something along the lines of a concordance, which need only be the contents lists from each publication in one volume, which would allow the new user to find all of the information much more easily. For example, I was wondering about whether it would be possible to play a Ranger if I could use long-distance weapons, so bought the Druid handbook to find out. Of course, Rangers are covered in the Warrior's handbook but I had no way of knowing this until I had already purchased the Druid handbook, by which point I figured that I probably couldn't, and gave up trying. I still don't know whether I actually can. None of this is meant to be miserable and grumpy; it is all meant to be constructive feedback from someone struggling to get my head around the system and hope that it will be taken as such. Sally xx *Sorry, grammar is what I do. I'm always happy to help proof-reading and translating almost to Crystal Mark standard. I know I'm not there today, but my brain is frozen and I got very little sleep last night. Long story. |
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Mar 7 2011, 12:01 PM
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I'd just like to clarify, 'dealing' is not something I do. Lol sorry was supposed to say 'desking'. iPhone predictive text clearly thinks badly of Carlo. I disagree. The handbook is not simple from where I sit. But it does have all the information that you are asking for. There is enough in there to play several different classes to 8th level (maybe about 8th + 100ish at a push). What you seem to be asking for is a republished version of information that is already published and available because you don't like the current format. In my experience NOBODY takes objection to people asking questions. Nobody. As someone who was not that long ago pretty much in your exact situation, you really should trust me on that. There are players who have been coming since the late 80's who will still ocassionally ask questions, and Ben Zeally averages a new question about every 12 seconds. It does confuse me sometimes that people are completely comfortable with walking around a cave in costume, holding a foam and latex weapon and shouting 'firedart!' at someone dressed in smelly damp armoury gear holding a foam and gaffa tape weapon, yet asking people questions takes them out of their comfort zone... |
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Mar 7 2011, 12:06 PM
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But it does have all the information that you are asking for. There is enough in there to play several different classes to 8th level (maybe about 8th + 100ish at a push). What you seem to be asking for is a republished version of information that is already published and available because you don't like the current format. It's not a question of liking or disliking; the current format needs work. This is not just my opinion, it is clearly shared by quite a lot of new players. In my experience NOBODY takes objection to people asking questions. Nobody. As someone who was not that long ago pretty much in your exact situation, you really should trust me on that. There are players who have been coming since the late 80's who will still ocassionally ask questions, and Ben Zeally averages a new question about every 12 seconds. It does confuse me sometimes that people are completely comfortable with walking around a cave in costume, holding a foam and latex weapon and shouting 'firedart!' at someone dressed in smelly damp armoury gear holding a foam and gaffa tape weapon, yet asking people questions takes them out of their comfort zone... Zealley. I think the issue is not "will person x mind if I ask this question", but "I'm starting to feel embarrassed/like a twit/PITA for asking so many questions all the time". I don't suffer from this because I'm not quite human (at least in empathic terms), which is why I ask so many questions. |
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