Contra Mastery vs Weapons |
Contra Mastery vs Weapons |
Jun 12 2018, 03:59 PM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 432 Joined: 7-August 12 Member No.: 2,469 |
Looking for a clarification from the masses. The way the Contra Mastery vs all weapons ability is worded is "From Counter Mastery and contra mastery vs 3 weapons, now gains Contra mastery vs all weapons."
Does this mean a combination of any 3 counter and contra masteries is required to buy this ability or does it mean you need 3 counter masteries AND 3 contra masteries before you can buy it? Also when you buy one of these against say swords, does it cover swords of all lengths or does the length need clarifying? -------------------- "A soldier's first battlefield is always his own mind"
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Jun 12 2018, 04:03 PM
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Avatar Group: Members Posts: 6,031 Joined: 23-June 08 From: Essex Member No.: 574 |
Looking for a clarification from the masses. The way the Contra Mastery vs all weapons ability is worded is "From Counter Mastery and contra mastery vs 3 weapons, now gains Contra mastery vs all weapons." Does this mean a combination of any 3 counter and contra masteries is required to buy this ability or does it mean you need 3 counter masteries AND 3 contra masteries before you can buy it? You can only buy counter mastery once as it applies to what you are using - you then need three contra masteries. So if ou use a broad sword - counter broadsword Then contra - bastard sword, bastard mace and hand mace Then contra all weapons Cheers |
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Jun 12 2018, 04:05 PM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 432 Joined: 7-August 12 Member No.: 2,469 |
You can only buy counter mastery once as it applies to what you are using - you then need three contra masteries. So if ou use a broad sword - counter broadsword Then contra - bastard sword, bastard mace and hand mace Then contra all weapons Cheers Perfect thanks -------------------- "A soldier's first battlefield is always his own mind"
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Jun 12 2018, 11:46 PM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 6-July 17 From: Brentwood Member No.: 6,075 |
You can only buy counter mastery once as it applies to what you are using - you then need three contra masteries. So if ou use a broad sword - counter broadsword Then contra - bastard sword, bastard mace and hand mace Then contra all weapons Cheers What about if you use a sword sometimes and a mace other times. Can you not buy Counter Mastery Twice? Then the other contras? -------------------- Cheers,
Simon. |
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Jun 13 2018, 07:39 AM
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Deity Group: Members Posts: 12,466 Joined: 10-November 07 Member No.: 25 |
What about if you use a sword sometimes and a mace other times. Can you not buy Counter Mastery Twice? Then the other contras? Nope, standardly you can only buy Counter Mastery once. And I think, I'd have to check, that Contra Mastery requires you to be using the same specific weapon you buy it in. So you use a Broadsword to benefit from the Counter and Contra Masteries, change weapon and you use the benefit. BBB -------------------- Grey's Law: Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice...
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Jun 13 2018, 04:06 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 5,155 Joined: 28-March 08 From: Ottershaw Member No.: 446 |
I think it depends where your brackets are...
From "Counter Mastery and contra mastery" vs 3 weapons, now gains Contra mastery vs all weapons = counter mastery and 2 contras required From Counter Mastery and "contra mastery vs 3 weapons", now gains Contra mastery vs all weapons = counter mastery and 3 contras required David |
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Jun 13 2018, 04:20 PM
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Deity Group: Members Posts: 12,466 Joined: 10-November 07 Member No.: 25 |
I think it depends where your brackets are... From "Counter Mastery and contra mastery" vs 3 weapons, now gains Contra mastery vs all weapons = counter mastery and 2 contras required From Counter Mastery and "contra mastery vs 3 weapons", now gains Contra mastery vs all weapons = counter mastery and 3 contras required David I'm pretty sure its meant to be 1 Counter Mastery and 3 Contra Masteries. It's only worded in that slightly confusing way because by default you can only buy one 1 Counter Mastery. BBB -------------------- Grey's Law: Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice...
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Jun 13 2018, 04:24 PM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,930 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 98 |
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Jun 13 2018, 05:40 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 52 |
I concur, Counter and 3x Contra as the prereq for Contra all weapons.
-------------------- Gordon Court
Port Miere business: portmierecitycouncil@gmail.com Known to play: Amorphus, Radiant & Zaton Cast of 2009: Amorphus, Ash, Cyric, Godstone, Kessel, Prowl, Mithaniel, Radiant, Raven, Strale, Void & Vorell Cast of 2010: Amorphus, Aqueous, Blaen, Godstone, Hex, Kessel, Mithaniel, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Vanderlaine & Void Cast of 2011: Cyric, Hex & Prowl Cast of 2012: Kessel Cast of 2013: Amorphus, Golgari, Kessel, Marimar, Radiant, Strale & "Terry" Cast of 2014: Amorphus, Hex, Godstone, Golgari, Ink-Eyes, Radiant & Strale Cast of 2015: Amorphus, Karador, Radiant, Strale & Zaton Cast of 2016: Zaton Cast of 2017: Amorphus, Equinox, Godstone, Golgari, Hex, Karador, Prowl, Radiant, Variel & Zaton Cast of 2018: Amorphus, Despair, Equinox, Golgari, Karador, Lannary, Prowl, Templeton, Vanderlaine, Void & Zaton Cast of 2019: Amorphus, Despair, Kodai No Ha, Lannary, Prowl, Radiant & Zaton Cast of 2020: Amorphus, Isamaru, Karador, Kodai No Ha, Lannary, Radiant, Strale & Zaton Cast of 2021: Amorphus, Grizzled Wolf, Isamaru, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Wrynn & Zaton Cast of 2022: Golgari, Ink-Eyes, Lannary, Leovold, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Strale, Wrynn & Zaton Cast of 2023: Isamaru, Leovold, Numai, Radiant & Zaton |
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Jun 13 2018, 10:28 PM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 6-July 17 From: Brentwood Member No.: 6,075 |
Cool... I have Counter Broadsword and Contra Mace so need two more.
With a Max AC of 12 Counter of -6 or contra of -3, how do characters get more Damage reduction if you can only use one damage reduction ata time? -------------------- Cheers,
Simon. |
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Jun 13 2018, 10:53 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 52 |
You can have 3 different damage reductions applying at once
1 numerical e.g 6pts Counter Mastery Broad Sword 1 percentile e.g. 25% Cold Rage 1 fractional e.g. 1/3 off weapon blows from Titan There are now plenty of published ones with the Warrior, Races & Classes now available. -------------------- Gordon Court
Port Miere business: portmierecitycouncil@gmail.com Known to play: Amorphus, Radiant & Zaton Cast of 2009: Amorphus, Ash, Cyric, Godstone, Kessel, Prowl, Mithaniel, Radiant, Raven, Strale, Void & Vorell Cast of 2010: Amorphus, Aqueous, Blaen, Godstone, Hex, Kessel, Mithaniel, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Vanderlaine & Void Cast of 2011: Cyric, Hex & Prowl Cast of 2012: Kessel Cast of 2013: Amorphus, Golgari, Kessel, Marimar, Radiant, Strale & "Terry" Cast of 2014: Amorphus, Hex, Godstone, Golgari, Ink-Eyes, Radiant & Strale Cast of 2015: Amorphus, Karador, Radiant, Strale & Zaton Cast of 2016: Zaton Cast of 2017: Amorphus, Equinox, Godstone, Golgari, Hex, Karador, Prowl, Radiant, Variel & Zaton Cast of 2018: Amorphus, Despair, Equinox, Golgari, Karador, Lannary, Prowl, Templeton, Vanderlaine, Void & Zaton Cast of 2019: Amorphus, Despair, Kodai No Ha, Lannary, Prowl, Radiant & Zaton Cast of 2020: Amorphus, Isamaru, Karador, Kodai No Ha, Lannary, Radiant, Strale & Zaton Cast of 2021: Amorphus, Grizzled Wolf, Isamaru, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Wrynn & Zaton Cast of 2022: Golgari, Ink-Eyes, Lannary, Leovold, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Strale, Wrynn & Zaton Cast of 2023: Isamaru, Leovold, Numai, Radiant & Zaton |
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