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Trickyz
post Oct 15 2021, 11:51 AM
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NON STANDARDS (maybe subject to slight change)

Baneful:- Worst of colour / alignment or type

Divine:- All colours / alignments and types as per Baneful and counts as being from a God or Dragon (whatever is worse for you.

To Death, Causes enough damage to take you into -1TBLP as long as you can be affected by it

Infinite, Does enough damage to kill you even in live to minus as long as you can be affected by it

Divine Vortex Cache, The Cache Rips a hole in the “Nacht”, A god reaches in and claps in 60ft radius.

It is a Baneful Divine Clap 1,200pt touch effect, it is a Baneful and divine. Immunity to Subdue applies granting half effect, in which case you take 600 TBLP then levels of Resistances to Victims Revenge applies first takes it 300, second to 150 etc. Justice of Kings and Act of Faith do not apply (it is a touch effect and has published immunity). The hands pass through walls etc.

Unlife:- It is a Divine ranged effect unless cast thru a weapon in which case it becomes a touch effect. Any Temp Life is reversed so 12/4 temp life becomes 12/4 off your max life. Resistances to Victims revenge apply. Its dungeon perm.

Weakness:- As above but 36/12 off you max life , resistances to Victims Revenge applies. Dungeon perm

AOE:- The realm beyond, can’t cast without draconic or divine guidance.
If you follow a god your god is suffering terrible fear and does not want to be here and as such casting damage is doubled
Every 2nd miracle of the same type fails and spirits and casting damage is still taken (immune to destruction miracles applies)
The fabric of reality here is crushing you, you want to pass out and as such take 1/1 to the head every second unless you have toughened skull.

Injustice – if you can be affected then you take a minimum of 18pts

Sin Damage:- Worst of Necro Gold / Ivory / White and Ebony and Neutral / Evil Spirit


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post Oct 15 2021, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(Trickyz @ Oct 15 2021, 12:51 PM) *
NON STANDARDS (maybe subject to slight change)

Baneful:- Worst of colour / alignment or type

Divine:- All colours / alignments and types as per Baneful and counts as being from a God or Dragon (whatever is worse for you.

To Death, Causes enough damage to take you into -1TBLP as long as you can be affected by it

Infinite, Does enough damage to kill you even in live to minus as long as you can be affected by it

Divine Vortex Cache, The Cache Rips a hole in the “Nacht”, A god reaches in and claps in 60ft radius.

It is a Baneful Divine Clap 1,200pt touch effect, it is a Baneful and divine. Immunity to Subdue applies granting half effect, in which case you take 600 TBLP then levels of Resistances to Victims Revenge applies first takes it 300, second to 150 etc. Justice of Kings and Act of Faith do not apply (it is a touch effect and has published immunity). The hands pass through walls etc.

Unlife:- It is a Divine ranged effect unless cast thru a weapon in which case it becomes a touch effect. Any Temp Life is reversed so 12/4 temp life becomes 12/4 off your max life. Resistances to Victims revenge apply. Its dungeon perm.

Weakness:- As above but 36/12 off you max life , resistances to Victims Revenge applies. Dungeon perm

AOE:- The realm beyond, can’t cast without draconic or divine guidance.
If you follow a god your god is suffering terrible fear and does not want to be here and as such casting damage is doubled
Every 2nd miracle of the same type fails and spirits and casting damage is still taken (immune to destruction miracles applies)
The fabric of reality here is crushing you, you want to pass out and as such take 1/1 to the head every second unless you have toughened skull.

Injustice – if you can be affected then you take a minimum of 18pts

Sin Damage:- Worst of Necro Gold / Ivory / White and Ebony and Neutral / Evil Spirit


Does immunity to internal effects grant immunity to the 1/1 every second to the head?


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post Oct 15 2021, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(darkrule233 @ Oct 15 2021, 01:30 PM) *
Does immunity to internal effects grant immunity to the 1/1 every second to the head?


Nope it's like your head is a grape being squeezed between the thumb and finger of a god until it goes pop.


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post Oct 15 2021, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(Trickyz @ Oct 15 2021, 12:51 PM) *
NON STANDARDS (maybe subject to slight change)

Baneful:- Worst of colour / alignment or type

Divine:- All colours / alignments and types as per Baneful and counts as being from a God or Dragon (whatever is worse for you.

To Death, Causes enough damage to take you into -1TBLP as long as you can be affected by it

Infinite, Does enough damage to kill you even in live to minus as long as you can be affected by it

Divine Vortex Cache, The Cache Rips a hole in the “Nacht”, A god reaches in and claps in 60ft radius.

It is a Baneful Divine Clap 1,200pt touch effect, it is a Baneful and divine. Immunity to Subdue applies granting half effect, in which case you take 600 TBLP then levels of Resistances to Victims Revenge applies first takes it 300, second to 150 etc. Justice of Kings and Act of Faith do not apply (it is a touch effect and has published immunity). The hands pass through walls etc.

Unlife:- It is a Divine ranged effect unless cast thru a weapon in which case it becomes a touch effect. Any Temp Life is reversed so 12/4 temp life becomes 12/4 off your max life. Resistances to Victims revenge apply. Its dungeon perm.

Weakness:- As above but 36/12 off you max life , resistances to Victims Revenge applies. Dungeon perm

AOE:- The realm beyond, can’t cast without draconic or divine guidance.
If you follow a god your god is suffering terrible fear and does not want to be here and as such casting damage is doubled
Every 2nd miracle of the same type fails and spirits and casting damage is still taken (immune to destruction miracles applies)
The fabric of reality here is crushing you, you want to pass out and as such take 1/1 to the head every second unless you have toughened skull.

Injustice – if you can be affected then you take a minimum of 18pts

Sin Damage:- Worst of Necro Gold / Ivory / White and Ebony and Neutral / Evil Spirit


Ok, Ill start the ball rolling.

To death, if Im in 350 life, it does 351 and then I apply my AC and reductions? That right? As I have stuff so that my AC and reductions always apply ofc. And is the damage from a magic "source", ie originates from a mana dragon / spell? If not what is the source (spiritual, neuronic, etc?)

Infinite, as above if 350 life and 50 ltm, it does 401 damage and then reductions kick in?

Cache, if I dont have immune to subdual (as according to Lee it should have been removed from published as subdual damage doesnt exist) do I still get to apply my resistances to victims revenge. And other damage reductions? And is the damage from a magic "source", ie originates from a mana dragon / spell? If not what is the source (spiritual, neuronic, etc?)

Unlife and weakness. I am definitely immune. For my allies, I have an ability where none of my spells can be tampered with or changed in any way. So as this seems to "reverse" the effect of my ivory warriors, it shouldnt work. If it does -12/4 life per rune, and the original runes remain unchanged, it works. Thats my understanding, happy to discuss if not yours! smile.gif

Think the rest I understand fine.

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post Oct 15 2021, 12:48 PM
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Obviously will clarify things tomorrow if people have questions


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post Oct 15 2021, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(Netheril @ Oct 15 2021, 01:43 PM) *
Ok, Ill start the ball rolling.

To death, if Im in 350 life, it does 351 and then I apply my AC and reductions? That right? As I have stuff so that my AC and reductions always apply ofc. And is the damage from a magic "source", ie originates from a mana dragon / spell? If not what is the source (spiritual, neuronic, etc?) - it keeps going until you are at -1 tblp after all reductions. it will be whatever is cast ie shadow strike to death would be enough to put you into -1 tblp, ie once you are "dead it stops because its intelligent but not that intelligent".

Infinite, as above if 350 life and 50 ltm, it does 401 damage and then reductions kick in? - it does infinite damage, ie inifinite shadow strikes would keep going and going. so you would have to be immune to shadow strike to be immune. (it will normally be a single power base, spell miracle or effect).

Cache, if I dont have immune to subdual (as according to Lee it should have been removed from published as subdual damage doesnt exist) do I still get to apply my resistances to victims revenge. And other damage reductions? And is the damage from a magic "source", ie originates from a mana dragon / spell? If not what is the source (spiritual, neuronic, etc?) - You still apply the resistances, it is Divine as above.

Unlife and weakness. I am definitely immune. For my allies, I have an ability where none of my spells can be tampered with or changed in any way. So as this seems to "reverse" the effect of my ivory warriors, it shouldnt work. If it does -12/4 life per rune, and the original runes remain unchanged, it works. Thats my understanding, happy to discuss if not yours! smile.gif The spells are not changed or tampered with. The spell recognizes the tempoary life as being a stolen "unatural" gift of life and takes this away from your max life. Ie you have 120/40 temp life and two resistances to victims revenge then you take 30/10 life from your max life (Your max life before temp life). So if you are in 119 life plus 120 temp life you get hit 5 times losing 150/50 life (with two resistances to victims revenge) you are therefore in -31 life but your temp life is keeping you alive. If you took 10 you would lose 300/100 off your max life and be at -181 life the temp life is no longer keeping you up and you are either in your live to minus or dead.

Weakness is just 36/12 if you have any temp life. It is a fixed amount to which victims revenge applies.

Think the rest I understand fine.

Cheers,

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post Oct 15 2021, 01:25 PM
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As a guess if your immune to comms, it can’t tell you have temp life, and thus does nothing?

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post Oct 15 2021, 01:27 PM
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Thx, understood.

Afraid that the temp life attacks works on my allies folks!

Good news (for everyone else anyway) is my attract magic style stuff does work on AoE attacks.

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post Oct 15 2021, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(duncanmatthias @ Oct 15 2021, 02:25 PM) *
As a guess if your immune to comms, it can’t tell you have temp life, and thus does nothing?

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Like it but no, it is the revenge of victims of the rule of day and night and for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; its not a comm.


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Is divine damage a weapon blow (if delivered by one?)

I assume yes, but at the point you’re immune the bane kicks in and makes it a touch fx or ranged spell etc? Could see it either way but I imagine it’s the worst of the options.

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