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Rob
post Apr 5 2011, 11:41 PM
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So - it isn't Friday but who cares!

This is in response to Si D's comment and Phil's reply on the ask the GSM thread.

Spirit Warriors - how bad are they?

What should they have to make them less poor?

The addition of the 2 40 point abilities to make them 0 spirit per level priests and allow them to have devotion are both fine but maybe they should not have to buy them!

If you look at spirit warrior compared to Unholy Champion it is not until later when there are some good 1st class priest abilities that they come even close.

IMO:

They should be 0 spirit per level priests without needing to buy the ability, they should be able to still use sharp weapons.

They are 1st class priests so should be able to buy innates like any other priest and buy devotion.

They should be able to get +2 WM earlier (can't do quad in B until T7 or quad in O until T8!!!)

Potentially there should be a T1 ability with some limiting factors that grant buy as warrior subclass (replacing the 2 abilities detailed above that they should now get for free)

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post Apr 7 2011, 06:41 PM
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How about if you don't think they are any good you just don't play them. It's not like the rules are shrouded in secrecy and you only get to see your options once you've started the character is it.


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Rob   Spirit Warriors - the wookie defence of Primus   Apr 5 2011, 11:41 PM
SiDeards   So - it isn't Friday but who cares! This ...   Apr 6 2011, 06:48 AM
JackFlashblade   All looks good, except not sure about the second m...   Apr 6 2011, 07:22 AM
DanM   Any changes will need to be able to be applied to ...   Apr 6 2011, 07:27 AM
Ryan   Any changes will need to be able to be applied to ...   Apr 6 2011, 07:40 AM
MattWest   ... IMO: They should be 0 spirit per level priest...   Apr 6 2011, 10:19 AM
Keyth   But APs/GKs are just too good at low points and th...   Apr 6 2011, 11:08 AM
Stuart   I've wondered why spirit warriors aren't j...   Apr 6 2011, 11:49 AM
Rob   I agree with witch stick and the other one - they ...   Apr 6 2011, 12:06 PM
LucyH   Comparatively that helps correct the balance betwe...   Apr 6 2011, 12:36 PM
DanM   If Spirit Warrior had normal innates buy-as, that ...   Apr 6 2011, 12:15 PM
Abel   If spirit warriors suck so much as a base class an...   Apr 6 2011, 12:51 PM
LucyH   If spirit warriors suck so much as a base class an...   Apr 6 2011, 01:48 PM
MattWest   But berserkers got taken out as a basic class beca...   Apr 6 2011, 02:59 PM
trussedfund   Well I managed quad in O by table 7 - with defende...   Apr 6 2011, 04:13 PM
DanM   Also Paladins/UC/GK can buy innates of their churc...   Apr 6 2011, 12:57 PM
sonof   People also seem to be missing that a spirit warri...   Apr 6 2011, 01:33 PM
DanM   People also seem to be missing that a spirit warri...   Apr 6 2011, 01:43 PM
Onasuma   I dont think spirit warriors are particularly awfu...   Apr 6 2011, 08:01 PM
SiDeards   So spending an MC slot to make them half decent is...   Apr 6 2011, 09:06 PM
Onasuma   Id love to just say yes and leave it at that, but ...   Apr 6 2011, 09:28 PM
Jasper   Id love to just say yes and leave it at that, but ...   Apr 6 2011, 10:04 PM
ChrisAndrews   And Lee Dale played a Rovfgr to 1000pts without sp...   Apr 6 2011, 10:19 PM
Jasper   And Lee Dale played a Rovfgr to 1000pts without sp...   Apr 7 2011, 08:21 AM
Rob   Id love to just say yes and leave it at that, but ...   Apr 6 2011, 10:41 PM
SiDeards   Spirit Warriors are still PAP standardly in their ...   Apr 6 2011, 10:42 PM
giles   Problem solved - change rules so that Budokas can ...   Apr 7 2011, 12:28 AM
MarkCox   I think Spiritual Warriors are fine I played one ...   Apr 7 2011, 07:09 AM
Stuart   - take Defender of the Faith buy your warrior abil...   Apr 7 2011, 08:16 AM
LucyH   I think Spiritual Warriors are fine I played one ...   Apr 7 2011, 08:26 AM
Pants   I played one to 5250 - it was OK, but I felt terri...   Apr 15 2012, 12:21 PM
DavidMartin   Wasn't Harpell a Spirit Warrior? Yeah, and Vr...   Apr 15 2012, 12:35 PM
miles   Yeah, and Vrere was a Psi-Master. Let's not ge...   Apr 15 2012, 12:49 PM
DavidMartin   But both were also 1st class warriors :) The origi...   Apr 15 2012, 01:58 PM
JulianW   I don't think spirit warriors are really that ...   Apr 7 2011, 09:50 AM
DanM   Its all more "why should paladins etc have a ...   Apr 7 2011, 10:44 AM
MarkCox   +1 What Julian said   Apr 7 2011, 10:46 AM
sonof   I feel so dirty!!! I think Dan might b...   Apr 7 2011, 11:34 AM
miles   I feel so dirty!!! I think Dan might b...   Apr 7 2011, 12:34 PM
aaaarrrggh   How about if you don't think they are any good...   Apr 7 2011, 06:41 PM
DavidFisher   Agree with Henry. I do not think Paladins are over...   Apr 8 2011, 08:18 AM
giles   How about if you don't think they are any good...   Apr 8 2011, 06:46 PM
JulianW   I agree with Henry, all characters should be shrou...   Apr 8 2011, 06:49 PM
BBB   UC's and GK's have a low level golden zone...   Apr 8 2011, 01:10 PM
giles   I did, once, as well you know. Even after photocop...   Apr 8 2011, 06:53 PM
DanM   I thought I'd bump this topic. Any chance Spi...   Apr 12 2012, 09:52 AM
Ryan   I thought I'd bump this topic. Any chance Spi...   Apr 12 2012, 12:21 PM
Mojo   Harpell, Thor.....   Apr 12 2012, 12:24 PM
BBB   Thor rebirthed and got better ;) BBB   Apr 12 2012, 12:43 PM
Mojo   Yeah, but he will always be the cute little spirit...   Apr 12 2012, 12:51 PM
Jasper   Yeah, but he will always be the cute little spirit...   Apr 12 2012, 01:00 PM


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