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Labyrinthe Forum _ The Council of Jade _ Rumours that the council has gone soft

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 10 2016, 09:09 PM

My Lords

I have heard rumours saying that the council has gone soft following a samurai bringing a peasant to members of the council for judgement. Apparently the peasant punched the samurai on the nose!
I missed the discussion as I was trying to source some herbal curatives of a purity my body would accept. Only the newest members of the council were present at the time.
The peasant after apologising was sentenced to having a finger chopped off and then sent back to work.
My sincerest apologies. If I had been the person to deal with this I would have told the samurai that he should have taken the man's head immediately after being punched and not waste council time. I would also have told him that he had failed in his duties and should commit seppuku.
Would I have been wrong in this judgement?

I thank you my Lords for your time

Noyen Nopac Zu of the Snake Clan

Posted by: Abel Oct 10 2016, 10:51 PM

Noyen Nopac Zu-san,

This "accusation" has levels.

Firstly I hope you killed the man who told you the Council had gone soft for insulting not just your Clan and the other Clans that make up the Council, but also your own Lord Naga Yusaki-sama, as well as Lord Sosen Riki-sama and Lady Daigo Dansu-sama.

The Judgement of the Council is fair as well as just and if the situation demanded a soft hand or a firm one, I'm sure the combined presence of both Lord Naga Yusaki-sama and Lady Daigo Dansu-sama was more than enough to mediate a correct outcome for both the offended samurai and the offending peasant, which should be bore in mind that the peasant was influenced by the situation with the black wolf and needed a different approach that simply cutting a head off.

Secondly, you sincerest apologies can be delivered in a manner better than a back hand followed by what is obviously, "what the Lords did was incorrect and I would have done this instead". I would question the sincerity in your apology when not just questioning you Lords judgement but in-fact correcting him on your "better" course of action.

Third, Yes, you are wrong in your judgement. Your Lord and the Lord of the Crane judged this situation and Daimyo's judgement on their lands issues are never incorrect. If you disagree, I'm sure Lord Naga Yusaki-sama would make time for your disagreement and possibly supply you a second.

In the future, perhaps bring dire news such as this with the head of the person defiling the name of the Council and in a more private manner as to not insult your Lord and the other lords in the Council in an open way such s this.

I hope Lord Naga Yusaki-sama is feeling generous on your beahalf with this news.

In honour,

Sosen Oku
Jade Emperors Ambassador

Posted by: LauraSB Oct 11 2016, 09:07 AM

Everyone is allowed to express opinion, though your wording could have been ...'better'.
There were many factors involved recently with the Issues of the Black wolf, so it must have been decided that leniency was the best method to deal with the situation.
If memory serves I was not there directly to deal with this matter, but I respect the decision made with all the 'interesting' occurrences that have been afield lately.

If Lord Naga feels the outcome was satisfactory, and you disagree, you know what to do.
If Lord Naga feels the outcome was dis-satisfactory, and the people involved disagree, they know what to do or id they agree with lord Naga it can be discussed privately.

Lord Ningyou Dansu of The Crane




Posted by: Naga Oct 11 2016, 10:54 AM

Every one must learn and know there place within out lands.

The Samurai has the right to judge and his decision is correct and is not to be questioned
The Council has the right to judge and should not be questioned
I have the right to judge and cannot be questioned

Your words while were simple and enquiring have insulted many in the most open of places. You status does not grant you the rank to question those above you.

The Council has not gone soft and by suggestion such you fuel that statement.

You now need to be judged by Ting Bo on the wheel and then take this lession into your new life.

I will give you one finial mercy rather then binding your soul into a dagger so you can never be reborn , you may go to Woodow Sama the Emperors Honour and commit Suppuku at his feet.

Lord Naga Yusaki
Daiymo of the Snake clan
Body of the Council

Posted by: isbiraven Oct 11 2016, 07:37 PM

The Voice of the council has been mute for too long.

I have finally finished with my Clans lands and the arrangements needed in service of our emperor and I return to help my fellow council elders
with what hardships we face.

I look forward to seeing you this Sunsday, I am sure we can put any and all "rumors" to rest swiftly.

Lord Sosen Riki,
Guardian of the Ancestors,
Voice of the Council,
Daimyo of the Jade dragon clan.

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 11 2016, 08:36 PM

(OOC - I stupidly forgot to put in description line that this was in Council chambers, not public)

My Lords I have obviously mixed my words and dishonoured you all in doing so.

What I was trying to say was that none of the lords of the council were present and three of us, your lowly servants were there when the samurai came in. I would never question the judgement of any of the council.

I was trying to make you aware that rumours had popped up in a few villages. These have been quashed but I wanted you to know.

My comments about what I thought any of you my Lords would have done if you were there were just that. I was asking in an obviously stupidly unclear way whether I was right in how I would have judged if I had done so on your behalf.

My previous unclear thinking was the reason Lord Naga sent me to the West for several years.

I can only apologise again and wait for judgement for my obvious stupidity.

Noyen


(OOC - I wrote the original post to lead to an IC reason for Noyen not being present this Sunday as I am meant to be monstering instead. I would have relied earlier after reading Jules' post this morning but real life issues prevented that.
If it is decided that Noyen is to pay the ultimate price, Duncan still has my character card from the last CoJ dungeon. Please let me know before Sunday though)

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 11 2016, 09:25 PM

*Noyen returns his borrowed weapons back to the smiths of his clan. With the limited training of the power of his mind and a few long breaks he transports himself to the Panama Clan. In silence he approaches Woodrow Panama, kneels and lays his Snake Clan mon at Woodrow's feet*

Posted by: dhurrell Oct 12 2016, 12:39 PM


Ears have no filter
But respect should screen the mouth.
Honour is restored.


Masaru Tao Chai Talibah
Daimyo of the Lion Clan


Posted by: LauraSB Oct 12 2016, 01:26 PM

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Posted by: Darkended Oct 12 2016, 11:39 PM

My honourable Lords, if I may:

It was I, Haiyū Yang-to, Family Daimyo of the Haiyū, of the Jade Dragon Clan, who passed judgement on that day.

The details with which I made my decision I divulged, with the honourable Lady Dansu and Lord Naga. I shall also be willing to share said details with you, Lord Riki, when we next meet, although I am sure there will be more pressing matters to attend to first...

If it is their will for me to explain publically, I shall do so.

In the meantime, if any others wish to publicly question the will of the Daimyos, or my judgement, they should submit themselves to stand trial this coming Sunsday, where I shall be more than willing to educate those on the matter of etiquette when addressing a Daimyo.


Lord Haiyū Yang-to
Daimyo of the Haiyū family
of the Jade Dragon Clan

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 13 2016, 09:27 PM

(OOC - Any idea what is going on? I can't kneel forever, I've got a knackered knee!)

Posted by: duncanmatthias Oct 14 2016, 06:18 AM

You should come ready to play, how much of the day you play remains to be seen

D

Posted by: gormaden Oct 14 2016, 07:41 AM

Last known image of Noyen Nopac Zu

Posted by: LauraSB Oct 14 2016, 08:26 AM

QUOTE(fatteacher @ Oct 13 2016, 10:27 PM) *
(OOC - Any idea what is going on? I can't kneel forever, I've got a knackered knee!)


well, there is a get out for you but its best done in character as it involves Dansu rebirth ability. The main issue are that you are not Crane (but having snake owe is often a Crane way) and helping your character could be considered the Daimyo's being 'soft'.

In a metagame kinda way, how much do you wish to get out of perming? I have a ability to save you, but it cost's my character 10 percent. Techniquely the choice is yours as San as Naga doesn't mind either.

Posted by: LauraSB Oct 14 2016, 10:20 AM

QUOTE(LauraSB @ Oct 14 2016, 09:26 AM) *
well, there is a get out for you but its best done in character as it involves Dansu rebirth ability. The main issue are that you are not Crane (but having snake owe is often a Crane way) and helping your character could be considered the Daimyo's being 'soft'.

In a metagame kinda way, how much do you wish to get out of perming? I have a ability to save you, but it cost's my character 10 percent. Techniquely the choice is yours as San as Naga doesn't mind either.


OOC after to speaking with Andy, ignore my badly worded comment that I have removed.

Posted by: dhurrell Oct 14 2016, 11:28 AM

QUOTE(LauraSB @ Oct 14 2016, 09:26 AM) *
well, there is a get out for you but its best done in character as it involves Dansu rebirth ability. The main issue are that you are not Crane (but having snake owe is often a Crane way) and helping your character could be considered the Daimyo's being 'soft'.

In a metagame kinda way, how much do you wish to get out of perming? I have a ability to save you, but it cost's my character 10 percent. Techniquely the choice is yours as San as Naga doesn't mind either.


So the question is 'Can Noyen bear the shame of another paying the price of his mistake' then?

Dave H

Posted by: duncanmatthias Oct 14 2016, 11:44 AM

Or is the fact he isn't pacted a good enough reason to bear his shame.....

D

Posted by: duncanmatthias Oct 14 2016, 11:47 AM

Or really playing "dragons advocate" was anything he said wrong or out of place ............

Posted by: dhurrell Oct 14 2016, 12:18 PM

QUOTE(duncanmatthias @ Oct 14 2016, 12:47 PM) *
Or really playing "dragons advocate" was anything he said wrong or out of place ............


His Daimyo seemed to think so, and he can't be wrong...
I have a feeling Sunday will be interesting!

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 14 2016, 12:23 PM

QUOTE(dhurrell @ Oct 14 2016, 12:28 PM) *
So the question is 'Can Noyen bear the shame of another paying the price of his mistake' then?

Dave H

He has told Dansu that it is his burden to bear his own dishonour.

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 14 2016, 12:33 PM

QUOTE(duncanmatthias @ Oct 14 2016, 12:44 PM) *
Or is the fact he isn't pacted a good enough reason to bear his shame.....

D

Do you want an IC seppuku or done on forum? I'm trying to work out which costume to bring

Posted by: Naga Oct 14 2016, 12:41 PM

I want cake!

Posted by: duncanmatthias Oct 14 2016, 12:41 PM

Bring monster costume, if it's going that way........

Posted by: duncanmatthias Oct 14 2016, 12:42 PM

QUOTE(dhurrell @ Oct 14 2016, 01:18 PM) *
His Daimyo seemed to think so, and he can't be wrong...
I have a feeling Sunday will be interesting!


...... can't he ......

Posted by: Abel Oct 14 2016, 12:49 PM

OOC - I am very sure there is a way to let Andy play (if thats is what he wants to do) and not commit seppuku and also not have to cost Dansu 10% (which is a completely stupid idea in the first place, wrong clan, not anything to really do with her, etc). I'm sure between Oku and Woodrow, we could sort out an Imperial pardon for "stupidity", while putting some constraints on him from the Emperor.

But if he doesn't mind paying the rp costs, he could still play (serve) the day and commit seppuku at the end of the day. Or if he wants/needs to crew, get it over with and write it off with "ah well, I've learnt my lesson not to speak so casually to my superiors again"

Posted by: duncanmatthias Oct 14 2016, 01:13 PM

QUOTE(Abel @ Oct 14 2016, 01:49 PM) *
OOC - I am very sure there is a way to let Andy play (if thats is what he wants to do) and not commit seppuku and also not have to cost Dansu 10% (which is a completely stupid idea in the first place, wrong clan, not anything to really do with her, etc). I'm sure between Oku and Woodrow, we could sort out an Imperial pardon for "stupidity", while putting some constraints on him from the Emperor.

But if he doesn't mind paying the rp costs, he could still play (serve) the day and commit seppuku at the end of the day. Or if he wants/needs to crew, get it over with and write it off with "ah well, I've learnt my lesson not to speak so casually to my superiors again"


There might be there might not be, but I'm not commenting IC as I'm the campaign ref and that would weird. I'm happy to "witness" Seppeku "IC" so he gets the rebirth buffs I give out, but it would need to be an OOC thing as I'm reffing the day.

I'm broadly happy with IC in the brief then go monster, play and do it at the end of the day, play and wander off to do it after time out. Or secret option number four if there is one

D

Posted by: cripple Oct 14 2016, 01:16 PM

QUOTE(duncanmatthias @ Oct 14 2016, 02:13 PM) *
Or secret option number four if there is one


There is always a secret option 4.... freak out... kill everyone.. and buy the dishonoured status... ph34r.gif

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 14 2016, 03:18 PM

QUOTE(cripple @ Oct 14 2016, 02:16 PM) *
There is always a secret option 4.... freak out... kill everyone.. and buy the dishonoured status... ph34r.gif

Shhhhh!

Posted by: isbiraven Oct 14 2016, 03:48 PM

wow.... you guys have really been missing Riki... lol

I really cant wait to get into this IC on sunday... smile.gif

Posted by: KatSables Oct 14 2016, 04:18 PM

I agree with Jules. Stupid idea!

Posted by: Darkended Oct 14 2016, 06:26 PM

As it was Yang-To's judgement he questioned, it is feasible that he could recommend sentence for him questioning it, with the Daimyo's permission. Without spoiling it, if that were the case Andy's character would not be perming for at least a year, and depending on the situation then maybe not at all. An alternative price would be paid in the interim...

That would depend on the IC decisions of the Council Daimyos in order to happen, and I won't influence that. However I do offer it as an OC solution.

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 14 2016, 08:04 PM

*Spoiler Alert!*
You are all going to be so surprised when Noyen turns out to be the 20k Ninja of the Black Wolf Clan!! Who knew Duncan would play such a long game with one of his NPCs?

Posted by: fatteacher Oct 14 2016, 08:05 PM

QUOTE(fatteacher @ Oct 14 2016, 09:04 PM) *
*Spoiler Alert!*
You are all going to be so surprised when Noyen turns out to be the 20k Ninja of the Black Wolf Clan!! Who knew Duncan would play such a long game with one of his NPCs?

Ignore all of that! Sorry Duncan! wink.gif

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