IPB WARNING [2] Declaration of class_bbcode::convert_emoticon($matches = Array) should be compatible with class_bbcode_core::convert_emoticon($code = '', $image = '') (Line: 0 of /sources/classes/bbcode/class_bbcode.php)
New Year, Same Lord Knight? - Labyrinthe Forum
IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> New Year, Same Lord Knight?
Netheril
post Dec 2 2020, 09:56 AM
Post #1


Mercenary
******

Group: Members
Posts: 1,788
Joined: 23-September 12
From: Surrey
Member No.: 2,516



Firstly, to be clear I am not posting this as the Voice of the Knights, just my own views. I considered posting this for just the Lords to discuss first, but believe this is a matter that concerns us all and should be discussed openly.

I believe we have seen glimpses of what Tristan seeks to achieve for the Knights. Indeed I believe he has achieved as much as he could given the restrictions we have all faced.

But the influence of Pep has severely hampered what any of us could do this last year.

As such, it is my suggestion that Tristan be asked to remain as Lord Knight for the year to come, when hopefully there will be greater opportunity for him to actually fulfill the mandate he was given when voted into the position.

I am not a political being, and have always had very little interest in such. So it may be that there are reasons I do not know why this cannot or should not be done. I will leave that to older and wiser knights than I to say.

But if not, then I would suggest that this should at least be discussed, and see what the consensus is. Otherwise, it will be time soon to start thinking about the next election, so we need to decide.

Sirac Drakeson
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ryan
post Dec 2 2020, 10:01 AM
Post #2


Avatar
*********

Group: Members
Posts: 6,031
Joined: 23-June 08
From: Essex
Member No.: 574



I concur with a second term based on the circumstances he has been forced to overcome, perhaps simply a vote on that... binary yes / no in our halls would give a solid indication of others feeling.

David Stone
Knight Reliant

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
DavidFisher
post Dec 2 2020, 11:20 AM
Post #3


Legend
********

Group: Members
Posts: 5,155
Joined: 28-March 08
From: Ottershaw
Member No.: 446



Good idea Dad!

Given the lack time to get stuff done I don't think Tristan has had a fair crack of the whip. Also, the likely low turn out for a postal vote (most Knights are safely locked up at home avoiding the plague) means it would be a sorry affair anyway.

Not sure we need a vote on this... unless there are other opinions, let's avoid a lot of unnecessary work and just make it happen

Avalon
Son of Sirac, Glorious Drakling
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Carlo
post Dec 2 2020, 11:22 AM
Post #4


Legend
********

Group: Members
Posts: 4,750
Joined: 23-November 07
From: Rochester
Member No.: 119



The election itself is an important process for us as knights. It’s a great and joyous time and creates a positive atmosphere. Knights old and new pop out the woodwork, opinions are voiced and ideas are created.

Have the election again. Let people run for it. If people want to vote for Tristan to give him another chance then great.

Tristan already has done more than previous Lord Knights in his short tenure.

I don’t think we should be deprived of an election. Let it run.

Andric




Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
TimTreadwell
post Dec 2 2020, 11:28 AM
Post #5


Legend
********

Group: Members
Posts: 3,805
Joined: 25-November 07
Member No.: 155



I completely agree with Sirac. This has been very much a non-year.

In would ask that Tristan agree to having his tenure extended before we proceed. Personally I would like him to do so.

I also agree with David Stone - there must be a vote on this in order not to set the precedent of extension without consensus.

Tradition has it that the vote for Lord Knight is a secret one however, and this should not be changed. If Sirac can give a place to put such votes then we can proceed if Tristan is willing.

Naturally Tristan can then keep the current Lords of Order etc, should they be willing, or change those that he wishes.

Kurth Honeyman.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
BBB
post Dec 2 2020, 01:15 PM
Post #6


Deity
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 12,462
Joined: 10-November 07
Member No.: 25



The Knights have always chosen their leader.

I do not believe that this should "just change". However I share Sirac's thoughts that circumstances have been against Tristan and us all in general.

I believe that a fair way of doing this is to have a simple vote before the Primal Final Dawn with the question of: "Do you wish a Lord Knight's election to be held in IM 1021 Yes / No"

I suspect the answer will likely be No but each knight has the opportunity to make their feelings known.

If its is a Yes then the usual procedures can begin in the New Year in time for the usual election result in tandem with Legend's Final Dawn.

Kei-Ry
Baron of Netherwell


--------------------
Grey's Law: Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice...

PS, Yes, I know my PM Box is full. Email me instead... (Which you can do through the forums email)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ChrisB
post Dec 2 2020, 01:45 PM
Post #7


Militiaman
****

Group: Members
Posts: 737
Joined: 8-March 10
From: Bromley
Member No.: 1,410



Knights,

Circumstances have been against us this past year, but we have always as tradition held the Lord Knights vote each year.

No matter what has happened we should not break from tradition.

I propose the Lord Knights vote should take place as normal, and if asked I shall stand again.

It is only fair that we continue as we always have, even more so in these trying times.

Tristan


--------------------
Tristan - Angel of the Virtues - Imrazil's Champion.
Slinky - Grizzled Black Orc - Axe Wielder.
Vambrael - Angel - Warrior Priest of Michael.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
StuartEaston
post Dec 2 2020, 02:01 PM
Post #8


Mercenary
******

Group: Members
Posts: 1,722
Joined: 23-November 07
Member No.: 105



QUOTE(Netheril @ Dec 2 2020, 09:56 AM) *
Firstly, to be clear I am not posting this as the Voice of the Knights, just my own views. I considered posting this for just the Lords to discuss first, but believe this is a matter that concerns us all and should be discussed openly.

I believe we have seen glimpses of what Tristan seeks to achieve for the Knights. Indeed I believe he has achieved as much as he could given the restrictions we have all faced.

But the influence of Pep has severely hampered what any of us could do this last year.

As such, it is my suggestion that Tristan be asked to remain as Lord Knight for the year to come, when hopefully there will be greater opportunity for him to actually fulfill the mandate he was given when voted into the position.

I am not a political being, and have always had very little interest in such. So it may be that there are reasons I do not know why this cannot or should not be done. I will leave that to older and wiser knights than I to say.

But if not, then I would suggest that this should at least be discussed, and see what the consensus is. Otherwise, it will be time soon to start thinking about the next election, so we need to decide.

Sirac Drakeson


Sirac I believe you are being too humble, you should be speaking as the Voice of the Knights on this matter.

I agree with your sentiment entirely, I was thinking of suggesting the same thing myself. There has been an unprecedented disruption to this year and I think that Tristan hasn't had a fair chance at leading the knights. I know that many of the things he had planned were not carried out because of the problems we faced.

I believe that for reasons tied to the stability of legend there should always be an election (I don't remember specifics but I think this is still the case), but it is definitely possible for a candidate to run unopposed. I would suggest that out of respect that no other candidate is nominated, or if nominated they would decline to stand, however I would not force that decision on anyone.

Tai
Lord Unity
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Netheril
post Dec 2 2020, 02:41 PM
Post #9


Mercenary
******

Group: Members
Posts: 1,788
Joined: 23-September 12
From: Surrey
Member No.: 2,516



QUOTE(StuartEaston @ Dec 2 2020, 02:01 PM) *
Sirac I believe you are being too humble, you should be speaking as the Voice of the Knights on this matter.

I agree with your sentiment entirely, I was thinking of suggesting the same thing myself. There has been an unprecedented disruption to this year and I think that Tristan hasn't had a fair chance at leading the knights. I know that many of the things he had planned were not carried out because of the problems we faced.

I believe that for reasons tied to the stability of legend there should always be an election (I don't remember specifics but I think this is still the case), but it is definitely possible for a candidate to run unopposed. I would suggest that out of respect that no other candidate is nominated, or if nominated they would decline to stand, however I would not force that decision on anyone.

Tai
Lord Unity


A lot of wise responses above, my thanks.

For me, Tai would seem to have suggested the best way to proceed, and his approach would leave it up to each of us to decide for ourselves which of the above paths we agree with.

As such, I will wait and see if there are any other convincing opinions offered or suggestions made. Otherwise I will open up the nominations process next week, to allow a little longer than usual for the process given the lack of opportunities for us all to meet up at this time.

Sirac Drakeson

Voice of the Knights
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
RichFromant
post Dec 2 2020, 02:53 PM
Post #10


Avatar
*********

Group: Members
Posts: 6,332
Joined: 23-November 07
From: Welling
Member No.: 37



As Tai has said, the election process and selection of a Lord Knight is important to the strength of the Knights and therefore the strength of Legend. It is why in recent years the election process has been a focus of attacks and disruption to try and weaken the Knights. I feel it essential that it runs.

Saying that, Tristan whole heartedly deserves a second term as Lord Knight following this year and I am pleased that he has said he is willing to stand again. I personally feel that there should always be at least one opponent, and it is why in the past both Nev and I have stood for Lord Knight while supporting the opposing candidate.

I have mentioned it that last few elections, but I have made a promise that should I be nominated and seconded I would stand for election, so would be honour bound to do so this year if the situation arises.

Gimly


--------------------
Rich

fromum@labyrinthe.co.uk
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Patch
post Dec 2 2020, 02:54 PM
Post #11


Mercenary
******

Group: Members
Posts: 1,401
Joined: 23-November 07
From: "Sunny" Wales
Member No.: 59



Perhaps some form of Spiritual or Elemental votes could be used...

Send a sylph around on it's little lightning bolt, or something...

Getting together in great numbers still seems like it might not be viable until the plauge or sunner seasons, though I am sure once we can we will all be very keen to do "good" and smite the wrongdoers and so forth, but the traditional little voting box could be a tough one to wrangle this year.

Elan


--------------------
Patch

Plays:
Harpell - He Who Is Elbrime
Vrere Da'Karte
Gabriel Drake
Elan: Malefactum


For Malefactum Issues: Malefactum.IM1022@gmail.com
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Netheril
post Dec 2 2020, 03:07 PM
Post #12


Mercenary
******

Group: Members
Posts: 1,788
Joined: 23-September 12
From: Surrey
Member No.: 2,516



QUOTE(Patch @ Dec 2 2020, 02:54 PM) *
Perhaps some form of Spiritual or Elemental votes could be used...

Send a sylph arond on it's little lightning bolt, or something...

Getting together in great numbers still seems like it might not be viable until the plauge or sunner seasons, though I am sure once we can we will all be very keen to do "good" and smite the wrongdoers and so forth, but the traditional little voting box could be a tough one to wrangle this year.

Elan


Good to see you here Elan, I was unsure if you had joined or not.

Anyway, yes, this is how the election process runs every year now. Firstly we will ask for nominations to be posted, and seconded, in our halls here.

Once that process is complete, all who have received the necessary nominations, and confirmed their willingness to stand will make a statement about themselves, and answer any questions asked of them.

And, presuming there is more than one candidate, I will supply an address where votes may be sent in.

Sirac
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Patch
post Dec 2 2020, 03:24 PM
Post #13


Mercenary
******

Group: Members
Posts: 1,401
Joined: 23-November 07
From: "Sunny" Wales
Member No.: 59



QUOTE(Netheril @ Dec 2 2020, 03:07 PM) *
Good to see you here Elan, I was unsure if you had joined or not.

Anyway, yes, this is how the election process runs every year now. Firstly we will ask for nominations to be posted, and seconded, in our halls here.

Once that process is complete, all who have received the necessary nominations, and confirmed their willingness to stand will make a statement about themselves, and answer any questions asked of them.

And, presuming there is more than one candidate, I will supply an address where votes may be sent in.

Sirac


Yes... I figured if such luminaries as the Baron of Netherwell can make it work then I'm sure I can give it a go... After all, despite everything I do strongly advocate the defence of the peon, and the ordinary man from the predations and schemes of those who would do them harm. I have always been a believer in a strong, ordered and well managed society.

Additionally after careful study of your rules it seems clear I am still allowed to collect a fair days pay, for a fair days work of murder and death (targeted against the schemers and their minions of course) and to indulge in fine wiskey, fine cigars and disreputable women. After all investing in a vibrant street level economy is vital for the people of this land.

Anyway good show... I look forward to casting my first vote in this fine institution.

Yours in friendship
Elan



--------------------
Patch

Plays:
Harpell - He Who Is Elbrime
Vrere Da'Karte
Gabriel Drake
Elan: Malefactum


For Malefactum Issues: Malefactum.IM1022@gmail.com
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Christine
post Dec 2 2020, 04:20 PM
Post #14


Legend
********

Group: Members
Posts: 4,045
Joined: 23-November 07
Member No.: 110



An election is really important - it shows how we choose to govern ourselves, that any Knight can choose our leader or stand as our leader, and that in this the voice and vote of every Knight is equal. As a personal view, I'd say it also demonstrates quite nicely that Demockery doesn't break the world, so.

We should have an election, because it affirms all those things in the eyes of Primus, our patrons and our brotherhood. If no other candidate is nominated, it will achieve the second term for Tristan that has been proposed whilst respecting our traditions; in the circumstances I will refrain from nominating my usual candidate and allow him an extra year to work on his election speech.

Tavis
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Will
post Dec 2 2020, 10:21 PM
Post #15


Legend
********

Group: Members
Posts: 4,492
Joined: 26-November 07
From: London
Member No.: 158



I agree that we should have an election. And I agree that Tristan is deserving of a second term.

Ace-Tren
Lord Watch


--------------------
Will Power - will@labyrinthe.co.uk
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
isbiraven
post Dec 3 2020, 06:41 PM
Post #16


Hero
*******

Group: Members
Posts: 2,930
Joined: 23-November 07
Member No.: 98



Agreed,

Lets have the vote and give Tristan another term.

Seems like the fairest move to me.

Erik.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
darkrule233
post Dec 3 2020, 07:33 PM
Post #17


Hero
*******

Group: Members
Posts: 2,059
Joined: 9-February 12
From: new addington
Member No.: 2,240



I will continue to support our current Lord Knight in his endeavours. Lots achieved in the short mercenary months this year, and I’m sure he will prevail in the role when he is voted in again.

Argoniculous De Fontaine,
Journeyman Magistrate
Monolith of the House


--------------------
Callum Kenney

Known to play:
Kassadin - tryst pure priest
Argonic - frost giant warrior (smurf)
Jacob - human pure priest
Yomi Kodama Panama - Tea Maker
Myrion - vacuum specialist
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
JonMace
post Dec 3 2020, 07:45 PM
Post #18


Mercenary
******

Group: Members
Posts: 1,237
Joined: 23-November 07
From: Tunbridge Wells
Member No.: 90



Just a peasant.

But it seems to me that the other peasants are no worse nor better off than they were a year ago.

Now that does not say a lot abot our Lord Knight till you think about the year we have had.

They could all be dead, and they are not, hope things will be better next year.

Give him another go

Fred
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Alasdair
post Dec 4 2020, 10:26 PM
Post #19


Mercenary
******

Group: Members
Posts: 1,523
Joined: 5-December 07
Member No.: 208



Sirs and ladies

A agree with what others have said. But we should nae mess with tha election principle.

Tristan could stand again, if he wants tae. Others should stand tae make it a proper vote. Others better than me.

A am happy tae vote fer Tristan. And if nae other will stand, A will.

Brok
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 28th March 2024 - 05:49 PM
Original Darkness Skin Created by Danellis
Converted by Mdgshorty of New Horizon Skins