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Brucifer
post Jan 8 2008, 07:31 AM
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Hiya peeps..

further to my Nightsoil post, can anyone come up withw better causing list for an AP than the one in En Guard?

I tried for about 2 hours last niight and couldnt, so a choccy bar to the best entry.

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post Jan 8 2008, 11:47 AM
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40 cause minor wounds.

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post Jan 8 2008, 12:01 PM
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Cause Wound, Soul's Hunger, Cause Serious, Cause Disease and Cause Grievous, all 1 per 4. Suspend Life 1/day.

Then a simple points app for Cause Wound grants +1 base and max damage on next blow and makes it spiritual, max quin, and cause serious grants +2 base and max damage on next blow, making it spiritual, max quin or 6 in B. Use your Soul's Hungers with the Cause Grievouses.

That's 2 quin blows, 2 six blows, 2 cause diseases to be evil with, 2 cause grievous which you soul's hunger and a suspend life. Pretty fruity.

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post Jan 8 2008, 12:31 PM
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...bloody hell Stuart!!!

Cheers. biggrin.gif

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Felix Arneherne - Accident prone Noble of Halgar
Shoju - the Black Dragon
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Tengu Mitsu - Sohei of the Temple of Thunder, Fortune of persistence
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post Jan 8 2008, 03:55 PM
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Bound spirit of causing looks like a must with that idea.
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post Jan 8 2008, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(Stuart @ Jan 8 2008, 12:01 PM) *
Cause Wound, Soul's Hunger, Cause Serious, Cause Disease and Cause Grievous, all 1 per 4. Suspend Life 1/day.

Then a simple points app for Cause Wound grants +1 base and max damage on next blow and makes it spiritual, max quin, and cause serious grants +2 base and max damage on next blow, making it spiritual, max quin or 6 in B. Use your Soul's Hungers with the Cause Grievouses.

That's 2 quin blows, 2 six blows, 2 cause diseases to be evil with, 2 cause grievous which you soul's hunger and a suspend life. Pretty fruity.

Stuart


What are the actual rules for putting WFA miracles on you base AP list.

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post Jan 8 2008, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(JulianW @ Jan 8 2008, 05:06 PM) *
What are the actual rules for putting WFA miracles on you base AP list.

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post Jan 8 2008, 05:10 PM
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I seem to remember you can have 1 WFA miracle, they are costed at double spirits on the innates and must be relavent to the miracle tree, and it might even need to be on the church's base miracle list to which yo uhave to be aligned.


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post Jan 8 2008, 06:17 PM
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No limit on the number of them you can have, but they cost double the spirits, and yes, they need to be on the church list.
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post Jan 8 2008, 07:37 PM
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Bruce,

Maybe focus on Cause Disease. Speak to Mr Tingle, he has stuff for his rat like each touch takes them up 1 stage of the disease. And physical diseases aswell as spiritual ones. And a disease form where he can only be killed by cure disease!

Dont want to give too much away as it's not actually my points app...

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post Jan 9 2008, 09:20 AM
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Hmmm...Cause Disease is abitslowfor whati had planned, and eventhoughi plan on going mummy later, the plan was for more of an'Angry' cause wound style mummy.

So as Stuarts sterling effort is knackered (wonder if i could blagSoul Hunger in the BCC?) are there any other lists from ppl?

Thanx forthe help so fareveryone biggrin.gif

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Felix Arneherne - Accident prone Noble of Halgar
Shoju - the Black Dragon
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post Jan 9 2008, 09:34 AM
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Stuart's list looks just fine.

3rd: Cause Wound 1/3 levels (2x2=4, running total =4)
4th: Cause Serious Wounds 1/4 levels (2x3=6, running total =10)
5th: Cause Disease 1/4 levels (2x4=8, running total =18)
6th: Cause Grevious Wounds 1/4 levels (2x5=10, running total =28)
7th: Soul's Hunger 1/4 levels (2x1=2, doubled for being WFA = 4, running total =32)
8th: Suspend Life 1/day (1x8=8, running total = 40)
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post Jan 9 2008, 10:36 AM
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Bad Pete! You're not allowed 1/3 levels any more! Other than that it's fine.

As there is no Church of Glass list (well, except for the Major Healing one I've got!), you're allowed Soul's Hungers.

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post Jan 9 2008, 12:42 PM
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Splendid. Really like the Soul Hunger thing...proper fruity.

So, to the background...can anyone provide me with a decent 'Patron' for this character? Like the 'Order of Glass made a bad man for bad deeds' (if thats appropriate) but also an Imperial slave sorta thing...maybe the Seers (the Corps is mother etc.)?

Does anyone have any HotE peeps that would want such a character working for them? Probably gonna be an Outlaw hunter that gets stuff back for slaying outlaws...

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Brucifer Morningstar lvl 40 layabout

Aerbael Winterhand - Icedancer of the Great Stag
Felix Arneherne - Accident prone Noble of Halgar
Shoju - the Black Dragon
Shyft - N.T.S.J.K.W
Tengu Mitsu - Sohei of the Temple of Thunder, Fortune of persistence
Rook - Iron Hunter, Deathbringer
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post Jan 9 2008, 01:41 PM
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Order of Glass probably isn't appropriate. It was basically a bunch of pure priests who ran the Empire for a year or so 8 years ago when things were falling to bits because all the Legions, Senatorial Guard and stuff went missing. Certainly the over-riding intent was goodly and, to be frank, my goodly priest who's guild head wouldn't let an AP in regardless of the strength of their affinity to the Empire.

Having said that, the seers are always a good one, since they're blatantly lawful evil. There are a couple of Black Ops groups attached to the Senate, Black Hand for one. ICOB is always a safe haven for pro-Imperial AP's. Then there's being a former member of 23rd Imperial Legion. Speak to Neil Waterson or Tim Treadwell about that - they were an evil Imperial legion.

Lastly maybe try speaking to Tim T/Paul Redman about the 101st and its associated warbands. There's a huge amount of history there.

I think basically the people to talk to are Andy Byatt as Tarras, Paul Redman as Parmonian and Tim Treadwell as any of a number of shifty types! Then the evil people on the senate are Jason Hamer as Chancellor, Adam Drake as Ma'ar Saldana and Steve Louch as Ashgaroth. Steve's down on Saturday playing Jander, so you might be able to grab him between sections.

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post Jan 9 2008, 01:52 PM
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Superb.

Those of you named in stuart's post, be warned...im looking for you..

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Felix Arneherne - Accident prone Noble of Halgar
Shoju - the Black Dragon
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Tengu Mitsu - Sohei of the Temple of Thunder, Fortune of persistence
Rook - Iron Hunter, Deathbringer
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post Jan 9 2008, 05:48 PM
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You can only have WFA if they are on your Churches mircle list -
If you are not in a church you canonly have Basic Miracles.


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post Jan 9 2008, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(MarkCox @ Jan 9 2008, 05:48 PM) *
You can only have WFA if they are on your Churches mircle list -
If you are not in a church you canonly have Basic Miracles.
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I presume this applies equally to Grey Knights?
Because that would be mean


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post Jan 9 2008, 06:02 PM
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Yep- [obviously] applies to Grey Knights as well and any other combo including Paladins with Stairways etc.

I spent some time going through Divine Guidance trying to find a decent NL list to no avail.

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post Jan 9 2008, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(Brucifer @ Jan 9 2008, 12:42 PM) *
Splendid. Really like the Soul Hunger thing...proper fruity.

So, to the background...can anyone provide me with a decent 'Patron' for this character? Like the 'Order of Glass made a bad man for bad deeds' (if thats appropriate) but also an Imperial slave sorta thing...maybe the Seers (the Corps is mother etc.)?

Does anyone have any HotE peeps that would want such a character working for them? Probably gonna be an Outlaw hunter that gets stuff back for slaying outlaws...

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Senator Ashgaroth is head of "Iron and Empire" a very loyal Imerial Cult that emphasises the use of dark spirits for the defence of the Empire.

As Stuart says Steve Louch is around on Saturday.

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