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CharleyL
post Nov 25 2007, 07:27 PM
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"You shall die in the name of the lady!"

Taking more of a starlight and glory approach for my warrior priest i was thinking along the lines of the warrior ability 'adrenal surge' but

For 5 minutes after shouting "You shall die in the name of the lady!" gains
+1 strength and repel evil at will (not sure about with or without verbal)

Its a starter idea....would you say to add more?

Thanks.
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post Nov 25 2007, 08:28 PM
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That's a little hardcore... As a really expensive miracle maybe, but as an innate? Repel evil is a 3sp major sphere miracle. I'd imagine "no way" would be your answer.

You could possible get "+1 strength for 5 minutes, 1 use of repel evil which must be used within five minutes" or possible that and another small innate. I'm not too big on the Yellow stuff.
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post Nov 25 2007, 08:59 PM
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Lol yeah i just read my Wfa and realised its 3sp a go.
I suppose:
Repel Evil once innately so life cost rather that SP
+1 strength
Cold rage?
Or just +1 strength and spirit dart at will no spirit/life cost happy.gif but as a little restriction may only be used vs Undead and after the 5 minutes is up the user is completly exausted and therefore cannot do ANYTHING for 10 minutes?
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post Nov 25 2007, 10:17 PM
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I'd say keep it simple dude, there's no point in overpowering the thing and compensating with debilitating disadvantages. You'd be far more useful hacking slowly for 15 minutes than fast for 5 and then utterly useless.

Also bare in mind, there's a reason that priests can't get rages standardly. I'd say try for a miracle that gives you +1 stacking strength to a max of +2, or +1 strength vs <insert enemy type> for 5 minutes, if you want that sort of thing. I don't know whether these kinds of innates a suitable. You're not meant to be front line.
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post Nov 25 2007, 11:05 PM
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If your really hardcore at killing evil people you have attract evil instead of repel.
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post Nov 26 2007, 07:20 AM
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How's about powering up the more martially minded members of the churhc?

Empowering sermons?

Enhance Spirit miracles?

the list is endless.

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post Nov 26 2007, 05:38 PM
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I've got a few nice sermon type abilities as Robert (not elberethian) - but is definately doable - and can get some cool things to power up members of your faith...


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post Nov 27 2007, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(CharleyL)
For 5 minutes after shouting "You shall die in the name of the lady!" gains
+1 strength and repel evil at will (not sure about with or without verbal)

Its a starter idea....would you say to add more?


If anything, less:
Best bet is to keep things simple.

Things like

"You shall die in the name of the lady!": Grants +1 base damage grade vs 1 evil target, lasts 5 mins.

"The wings of the Lady's angels shall shelter me": Grants a 25% damage reduction vs attacks from evil aligned opponants, lasts 5 mins.

"Let the fury of the angels drive away the dark ones": Spiritually causes fear in all evil creatures, 4 levels or below, for 5 mins.

are really easy for people to read and understand. Adding in other abilities just complicates matters.
If you want to be able to repel evil @ will for 5 mins, just apply for that as a seperate ability.
That way sometimes you can use both abilities at the same time, but you won't have to do so those times it's irrelevant.
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post Nov 27 2007, 04:59 PM
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Ooo very nice Pete very nice indeed happy.gif mind if i use? Would i be able to put them all onto 1 sheet? Or would i have to use 3 separate sheets?


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post Nov 27 2007, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(CharleyL @ Nov 27 2007, 04:59 PM) *
Ooo very nice Pete very nice indeed happy.gif mind if i use? Would i be able to put them all onto 1 sheet? Or would i have to use 3 separate sheets?
Charley


Of course I don't mind if you want to use the ideas.
Putting them all on the same sheet should work: As long as you leave enough space between each ability for Mark to write his comments (and their costs/table) you can write multiple abilities on a single sheet.

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post Nov 27 2007, 06:01 PM
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Ok thanks alot Pete and all im pretty sure of what i'm going to do now. Oh and are undead affected by fear?
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post Nov 28 2007, 10:36 AM
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That 25 % damage reduction would be good for my priest lol smile.gif

I was thinking of something like half spirit cost ( minnimum of 1 ) for all offensive miracles for the next 5 minutes when used against evil/undead target

Simple but cant think of a verbal

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post Nov 28 2007, 11:09 AM
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reposted for clarity


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post Nov 28 2007, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(CharleyL @ Nov 27 2007, 06:01 PM) *
are undead affected by fear?


They are not affected by the MIRACLE of cause fear, but weather other forms of fear affect them has been hotly debated in the past.
I believe that the outcome was that intelligent undead are, unintelligent ones aren't. I may be wrong.
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post Nov 28 2007, 12:13 PM
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well unDEAD...are dead...dead things can't feel becuase there dead. So fear shouldn't even effect intellginent undead. Unless its something like Holy light. not a simple fear mircle/spell.



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post Nov 28 2007, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(DanM @ Nov 28 2007, 11:09 AM) *
Your more likely to get something like

Chain Cast

For each additional casting of Spirit bolt, used after the first, the spirit cost is reduced by 1sp to a minimum of half cost. Additional, the verbal for the additional spirit bolts becomes "Spirit bolt". e.g. By all my power let thy spirit be smitten Spirit Bolt, Spirit Bolt, Spirit Bolt - Would cost 4 +3 +2 = 9sp. Must be Major Sphere Force



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post Nov 28 2007, 01:13 PM
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if you apply for a specific ability that causes fear in evil creaures 'including undead' for five minutes up to a certain level then yes (assuming it gets passed) it will affect them.

it all depends on the wording of the ability and any changes mark may make to it.


if you look in evolution the angel of war M/R grants fear all evil creatures including undead up to 6th level for 5 minutes 1/2 levels

so there is a published means of acquiring what you are after.

it may be easier to try and get it via a M/C or M/R though.


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post Nov 28 2007, 03:06 PM
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Do you think i would be able to get that chain casting without being major force sphere?

Even if i have to change something

what about something like half casting damage when casting goodly healing miracles on goodly or neutral members of your party. Does not apply to undead ? would something like that work
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post Nov 28 2007, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(JordanB @ Nov 28 2007, 03:06 PM) *
Do you think i would be able to get that chain casting without being major force sphere?

Even if i have to change something


Stranger things have happenned, but I would imagine that it would have to be at least minor force


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post Nov 28 2007, 03:11 PM
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Kk thanks
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