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Onasuma
post Dec 13 2022, 12:13 PM
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No, my lands are populated (in majority) by soldiers and serfs. Such wardings are a marker of hedge.

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post Dec 13 2022, 03:06 PM
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I am now able to confirm a number of facts (and can draw a couple of further suppositions)

Facts.
1.) Bran is being used as a source of "Divine Power" to empower and enhance the forces of Khorbris
2.) The forces so enhanced have much greater physical fortitude than an average silverfolk (Dedicated combatants akin to perhaps an Ogre with lesser combatants more akin to a Human warrior, and Casters along the lines of a Human Spiritual Warrior)
3.) Khorbris has created an Army of these strengthened warriors and intends to unleash them on the Empire and the Souther Baronies
4.) The Army is now mobilising, it is in the process of awakening the remaining subjects imbued with Bran's power and equipping them.
5.) Khorbris herself wields a legendary blade of my people, something that is to a Silver Sword what a Master smiths sword is to a wooden training blade... How she came by such a thing I cannot say.
6.) Khorbris is seeking another legendary artifact of my people I believe she seeks to ascend.

Suppositions.
1.) Bran is a Divine being, or closely connected to one, possibly some aspect of "life"
2.) These plans have long been in motion (there are thousands of enhanced Silverfolk) but the timeline of the attack has been expedited (they are not fully equipped and ready when awoken)

Based on the fact that Baron Wither was unable to scry upon them.
1.) Khorbris is expecting an attack
2.) Bran remains where he was imprisoned (transference of divine power is not easy, and effort to empower many warriors has been made, it seems unlikely he would be moved, though not impossible)

In regard to Ry'Noth's questions below I would assume that the answers are as follows.
* Is the child Bran still alive?
Yes... it is possible they cannot kill him if he is a divinity
* If so, is he yet corrupted?
I would suggest not, though in truth this is more Vrere's "feelings" than any empirical evidence I can reference, though I have learned to trust Vrere in such matters
* Can Bran be saved from Her Shining Ascendency without dying?
I hope so, but also we cannot allow this to continue I would hope we do not have to end Brans existence, but I will do what I must
* What is the goal of Her Shining Ascendency with reference to Bran?
See above
* If the enemy forces know we are likely to return, is there an alternative path or route we can take to minimize fighting our way to the child?
we entered through the kitchens last time, I suspect security has been improved
* Is there any friction between the 'Alliance of Evil' factions which we could look to exploit?
during our last trip, the Frost Giants seemed to be the most "Mercenary" of forces, Also there are Duegar present, it may be possible to sow seeds of conflict between them and Silverfolk, given the silverfolk hatred of those with Psychic power

There remain questions to be asked, and answered... Though I do not believe it will be possible to gain such through communication with Dragons or Deities, I could be wrong.
1.) Why does Khorbris seek to Ascend... Gith does not play well with others...
2.) Does that infer she is doing so at Giths behest, or without her knowledge? The first case would be most likely and also the most worrisome.
3.) Can this Army be waylaid, or destroyed before its preparations are complete?
4.) If not can forces be raised to stop them.
5.) Why does Khorbris willingly risk exposure to the Sterility Virus? or have they found the answer to it in Bran?

There is a lot to consider.

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post Dec 13 2022, 03:17 PM
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Please dont feel that you need to carry what you might consider the burden of killing a divinity. I assure you several of us travelling would relish the opportunity.

Baron Wither has contacted me separately to let me know that most off those taken from my lands have been murdered. Some remain alive for now - I expect I am to be blackmailed at some point during our mission. In the event we end up fighting controlled members of my guard note that I consider their failure in being controlled to be a fault of theirs and if this leads to their death then it is sad but not a problem to mourn for. If, however, any of my serfs are held in a similar situation, a blow against them is a blow against my heart and I will retaliate with my full force to see whoever did so dead and their ashes scattered. I do not wish this to happen, but I am making this exceptionally clear now. This is also how I will be treating all those involved in their kidnap and murder.

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post Dec 13 2022, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Onasuma @ Dec 13 2022, 03:17 PM) *
Please dont feel that you need to carry what you might consider the burden of killing a divinity. I assure you several of us travelling would relish the opportunity.


It is more a fact that I do not wish to kill anything or anyone who will be an enemy of The Enemy. however I will not allow Bran to empower their soldiers... if I can save him I will, he could be a valuable asset, however I will not allow Khorbis to continue to benefit from him one way or another.

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Baron Wither has contacted me separately to let me know that most off those taken from my lands have been murdered. Some remain alive for now - I expect I am to be blackmailed at some point during our mission. In the event we end up fighting controlled members of my guard note that I consider their failure in being controlled to be a fault of theirs and if this leads to their death then it is sad but not a problem to mourn for. If, however, any of my serfs are held in a similar situation, a blow against them is a blow against my heart and I will retaliate with my full force to see whoever did so dead and their ashes scattered. I do not wish this to happen, but I am making this exceptionally clear now. This is also how I will be treating all those involved in their kidnap and murder.

Erika.


I would not wish the death of any innocent in your care, we can and should do all we can to save these people. Are you able to identify them? If they cannot be freed then what would you as their responsible Lord have us do... we can hardly stand there and allow them to murder us (though I should note I would expect many of us to have the skills not to be murdered by simple common-folk)

I am concerned that if they intend to blackmail you... from the sound of it, they may succeed, would you betray us to ensure their safety? and if that's the case should we investigate further to mitigate the risk of such internal conflict? these forces it would seem threaten the Baronies, is there a point where wider risk and wider duty overtakes personal loyalty and duty?

Please understand I ask only so that we can consider the situation here rationally, away from the sudden and dangerous pressures of conflict, and thus in that consideration have a plan to move forward that will best serve the safety of your people and the success of our mission. I do not wish to infer or call into doubt any of your oaths to your order, your people, or your nation, nor suggest any intent to harm your people for that is very much not the case.

I suggest only we explore what this development means fully and understand all the options that there may (or may not) be and thus avert a moment of sudden crisis in the heat of battle.

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post Dec 13 2022, 05:19 PM
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I understand the position you are in, but I am a cavalier - I simply do not do betrayal. These people have already hurt my Barony, and my pride, and turning on you would do more ill to my people than broadly any alternative I can see. As it has always been, my first loyalty is to the people of Brehmen, not to Circle and not to the Baronies. That does not mean a person in Brehmen may not be asked to sacrifice to ensure their siblings safety; The Baronies is a harsh land, and people die. It is my duty to ensure that, wherever possible, my blood is the first spilled. I have been placed in a vulnerable position and the greatest strength a group of companions has is knowledge of each others weaknesses. If you wish to investigate further, you will not hear a complaint from me.

I do not have a simple answer as to what to do in every situation that can be imagined here, gentle removal would be the general preferred solution - the sleep spell for example. These people are feeble - a serf is akin to what you call a peon in the north- and I will not allow anyone to risk murdering them by trying to knock them out with a sword hilt. In the event of a "Paladin's trap" I can simply tell you I am no paladin.

I hope this has made things clearer, but if not I will gladly answer further questions if you have them.

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post Dec 13 2022, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(Onasuma @ Dec 13 2022, 05:19 PM) *
I understand the position you are in, but I am a cavalier - I simply do not do betrayal. These people have already hurt my Barony, and my pride, and turning on you would do more ill to my people than broadly any alternative I can see.


my limited experience of your order and the Von Berhmen's has been exemplary. you and Paskoje have both performed as reliable and stalwart allies on the occasions I have met you. I am glad that we are not going to face any such difficulties.

QUOTE(Onasuma @ Dec 13 2022, 05:19 PM) *
As it has always been, my first loyalty is to the people of Brehmen, not to Circle and not to the Baronies. That does not mean a person in Brehmen may not be asked to sacrifice to ensure their siblings safety; The Baronies is a harsh land, and people die. It is my duty to ensure that, wherever possible, my blood is the first spilled.


I understand your loyalty to your people it is admirable it is a quality I share

QUOTE(Onasuma @ Dec 13 2022, 05:19 PM) *
I have been placed in a vulnerable position and the greatest strength a group of companions has is knowledge of each others weaknesses. If you wish to investigate further, you will not hear a complaint from me.

I do not have a simple answer as to what to do in every situation that can be imagined here, gentle removal would be the general preferred solution - the sleep spell for example. These people are feeble - a serf is akin to what you call a peon in the north- and I will not allow anyone to risk murdering them by trying to knock them out with a sword hilt. In the event of a "Paladin's trap" I can simply tell you I am no paladin.

I hope this has made things clearer, but if not I will gladly answer further questions if you have them.

Erika


We have a number of users of power who may be able to assist., I cannot render someone unconscious at this time, without risking concussive harm that could lead to a commoners death. but I would imagine that the power users among us may be able to do so.

It seems your people were not alone, I have been informed that a number of imperial citizens were also taken, this would lead me to suspect that this act of vengeance is not targeted specifically at you, and lessens the chances of "Blackmail" rather it suggests that we may be made to endure some form of consequence. Ultimately I suspect it was a warning from Khorbris "I can hurt you too" perhaps.

in any event, I suspect that those souls taken from Brehmen and the Empire, will yet have some role to play before our work is done.

Da'Karte


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post Dec 13 2022, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(Patch @ Dec 13 2022, 08:22 PM) *
my limited experience of your order and the Von Berhmen's has been exemplary. you and Paskoje have both performed as reliable and stalwart allies on the occasions I have met you. I am glad that we are not going to face any such difficulties.
I understand your loyalty to your people it is admirable it is a quality I share
We have a number of users of power who may be able to assist., I cannot render someone unconscious at this time, without risking concussive harm that could lead to a commoners death. but I would imagine that the power users among us may be able to do so.

It seems your people were not alone, I have been informed that a number of imperial citizens were also taken, this would lead me to suspect that this act of vengeance is not targeted specifically at you, and lessens the chances of "Blackmail" rather it suggests that we may be made to endure some form of consequence. Ultimately I suspect it was a warning from Khorbris "I can hurt you too" perhaps.

in any event, I suspect that those souls taken from Brehmen and the Empire, will yet have some role to play before our work is done.

Da'Karte

Happy to kill, main and leave in a poor state of mind anyone you may need Da’Karte, I assume you don’t mean the guy in a straw hat?

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post Dec 13 2022, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(Patch @ Dec 13 2022, 04:20 PM) *
I am concerned that if they intend to blackmail you... from the sound of it, they may succeed, would you betray us to ensure their safety? and if that's the case should we investigate further to mitigate the risk of such internal conflict? these forces it would seem threaten the Baronies, is there a point where wider risk and wider duty overtakes personal loyalty and duty?


I am unsure of the security of this channel, but even should the answer be otherwise I would not expect this question to be well answered. Such information as where is our wider duty and where is our personal duty, and how can they be made to conflict, would be valuable indeed if someone is working against our goals.

I, like the Baroness, am concerned at the possibility of loyalties being divided, and, like her, consider the harm to my serfs to be the direst of threats: it is not the done thing to harm the defenseless, it speaks of an anathemic appetite, a description I do not use lightly.

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post Dec 13 2022, 10:36 PM
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An insight from a friend - who I will avoid naming lest they become embroiled in this as well - suggests that no one taken from Brehmen meets my definition of serf, the focus having been instead on potent undead soldiers. We do not have many such people in our lands, but evidently we now have fewer. Suggestion says they have been bound by a mindflayer, using silver collars to break their will. If my command is so unimportant to them, then they do not have my sympathy. If they are easier to free, then free them, but I will not invest much of my own thought into those who desert their banner.

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post Dec 14 2022, 07:28 AM
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Interesting…

Potent Undead
Figures from the Deci Underworld
Followers of the War God currently named Micheal
And two prize goats.

And an Illithid…

Well it seems possible we should ready ourselves to face such creatures.

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post Dec 14 2022, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(AJull @ Dec 13 2022, 08:49 PM) *
Happy to kill, main and leave in a poor state of mind anyone you may need Da’Karte, I assume you don’t mean the guy in a straw hat?

Morsin


I need to have a conversation with you Moresin. Ry'Noth and I will speak with you on the Starsday morning and discuss what I need from you.

If you continue to threaten Vrere because you think its funny you may find yourself on the receiving end of one of his emotional outbursts, Given that you cannot harm him, and he can harm you, that may not be so comical. Vrere is a being of passions, wants, and desires, it is not wise to provoke fear or anger in him. This is the last time I will make this warning to you.

Da'Karte


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Da'Karte,

I would like to inform you that those of Deci who were taken were all skilled craftspeople, and many were those who would soon have been invited to stand as more prominent members of their crafting guilds. I imagine they will be used to craft the Silverfolk potent artefacts, or perhaps to repair the one you were talking about earlier which Khorbris intends to use to ascend. In any case, while I do not particularly care for the individual people who were taken, an attack on the people of Deci is an attack on Deci itself and I would appreciate the ruthless slaughter of any and all of the Silverfolk scum you come across.

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Thank you Alechim, interesting the motives seem unclear at the point, but I am sure things will become clearer once we are able to breach the facility.

I suspect these attacks were meant to "hurt" people, the attack on Brehmen I can see, the attack on Trog's goats or the followers of the same faith as Acachak, but I am unsure why figures from Deci were targeted, someone on the last attempt clearly had links to the city, but I am unsure who.

Well yes, everybody seems awfully keen to encourage me to kill Silverfolk, My goals are clear and they involve causing as much harm to the plans of Khobris as possible.

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post Dec 14 2022, 10:11 PM
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One hundred and thirty seven. One hundred and thirty seven people have been taken from me. The amount of suffering I will be turning back upon those guilty of this will be earth shaking. Tell me how I can hurt them, tell me who they care about, tell me how they break.

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QUOTE(Onasuma @ Dec 14 2022, 10:11 PM) *
One hundred and thirty seven. One hundred and thirty seven people have been taken from me. The amount of suffering I will be turning back upon those guilty of this will be earth shaking. Tell me how I can hurt them, tell me who they care about, tell me how they break.

Erika.


I will gladly help you, I have been looking into the threads of the past. it seems there are a number of things that are different in this timeline to many others, but our foe is greater than I at first suspected. While sobering this does present a genuine oppertunity to strike at the very heart of the enemy.

I will contact you privately with what I have learned. You have certainly earned that trust.

Da'Karte.


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Does anyone need the Order of Merc's crown? If not I could make great use of it.

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QUOTE(Mojo @ Dec 15 2022, 04:06 PM) *
Does anyone need the Order of Merc's crown? If not I could make great use of it.

Mojo


I believe it is already claimed.

You can discuss the matter with the incumbant I will pass you their details privately.

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No that is fine.

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