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Carlo
post Apr 15 2010, 02:22 PM
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The Faith of Dead Heroes is one which is growing strongly, across the empire and across the mercenary community. It is pleasing to see so many of you out there, looking after the people, defending them and the Land on which they live, and serving the Empress herself.

I think, after a faith that started out small, and a faith based on the order of monks within the Brandins who collated and held the stories of those gone before, growing to what it is today, it is time we created a symbol of faith.

Our faith teaches a large degree of variety, and diversity. We each channel different powers, different spirits and call on different Heroes to achieve what needs to be done.

I am looking for suggestions, as to what a symbol of our faith could be. Such that the many within our Church can wear with pride and glory.

One of my initial thoughts, is possibly, a book with some sort of insignia on it. Perhaps, a book with a sword and shield motif?

What do people think?

For the Land, For the People, For the Empire.

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:32 PM
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Lots of other faiths and houses and all sorts have books and swords, sir. It's not all that original if you don't mind my saying, though I suppose that's not a bad thing per se. Not to mention that not all our heroes are the martial sort. The shield also does rather make the assumption that all of our members are the Knightly sort, which I don't think is the case.

A quill, maybe, would be a nice way of getting the scribing sort of theme into it without treading on the toes of other heraldry.

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:37 PM
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Andric

I think you are on the right lines with a book, as the collation of tales is something many of us do already.

Not sure about the sword and shield, for two reasons - first, while a great number of our faith are also knights of the land, we should not confuse the symbology of the two and second, one of the misconceptions people often have of the faith is that we revere only the heroism of mighty warriors, when in fact there are many forms of heroism worth recording. I could be persuaded otherwise however.

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QUOTE(ethuil @ Apr 15 2010, 03:32 PM) *
Lots of other faiths and houses and all sorts have books and swords, sir. It's not all that original if you don't mind my saying, though I suppose that's not a bad thing per se. Not to mention that not all our heroes are the martial sort. The shield also does rather make the assumption that all of our members are the Knightly sort, which I don't think is the case.

A quill, maybe, would be a nice way of getting the scribing sort of theme into it without treading on the toes of other heraldry.

Aoife


Books and swords are very common.
How about a skull (for dead) and banner (for heroes) instead?

Or a crystal representing Her Glorious Imperial Majesty supported by a chained angel and abashai, showing both good and evil subservient to the will of the Empire?

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:48 PM
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I thought it was the one armed soldier, Milo - but I like the skull & banner (sounds like a good name for a tavern)

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(LucyH @ Apr 15 2010, 03:40 PM) *
Books and swords are very common.
How about a skull (for dead) and banner (for heroes) instead?

Or a crystal representing Her Glorious Imperial Majesty supported by a chained angel and abashai, showing both good and evil subservient to the will of the Empire?

Lirael.


I think these various responses just go to show what a wide rang of things fit our beliefs.

I'm not so keen on any sort of theme involving skulls. I know it is just a representation of death, but still they don't sit too well with me.

I quite like the idea of the Crystal with the Angel and Abishai, but as much as the faith is very much strongly linked to the Empire, the Tales of whom we tell aren't always ones involved as such.

A Book with a Crystal emblem?

Keep the ideas coming.

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(giles @ Apr 15 2010, 03:48 PM) *
I thought it was the one armed soldier, Milo - but I like the skull & banner (sounds like a good name for a tavern)

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I'm ideally looking for some sort of symbol. St Michael have their cross, Sheahan the Dove, Elbereth the eight pointed star, etc.

Some sort of symbol relating to the common solider would be fitting.

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:51 PM
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Don't forget there is room for more than one symbol.

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(ethuil @ Apr 15 2010, 03:32 PM) *
Lots of other faiths and houses and all sorts have books and swords, sir. It's not all that original if you don't mind my saying, though I suppose that's not a bad thing per se. Not to mention that not all our heroes are the martial sort. The shield also does rather make the assumption that all of our members are the Knightly sort, which I don't think is the case.

A quill, maybe, would be a nice way of getting the scribing sort of theme into it without treading on the toes of other heraldry.

Aoife


Any symbol would do. as along as its distinctive enough.

all of these comes to mind when trying to think of a picture of the Church

A scroll and quill depicting a list of names, on a large busy looking desk.
The Imperial eagel with crossed swords behind it.
A camp fire and yound and old gathered round it.
A rough grave like mound of earth with a worn sword sticking out of it and perhaps a few flowers and the dented helm.
A battlefeild in light fog and the last vertran slumped on their knees proping themselves up by the spear/sword as they breath and final breath.

personally I think something simple and easy to draw for the less than artistic.

simple is the key. doesn't have to sum up the faith in one artistic picture, the legions all seam to have simple shapes to represent them.

A silver Imperial arrow on a black triangle on a white shield. would be quite simple.

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Carlo @ Apr 15 2010, 03:51 PM) *
I'm ideally looking for some sort of symbol. St Michael have their cross, Sheahan the Dove, Elbereth the eight pointed star, etc.

Some sort of symbol relating to the common solider would be fitting.

Andric


A footprint?

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post Apr 15 2010, 02:59 PM
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post Apr 15 2010, 03:20 PM
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book and quill maybe too simple
minotaur - like in the first story would be good and easy

church of glass have crystal already

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post Apr 15 2010, 06:12 PM
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The Church already has a symbol

The Broken Sword

It represents the anonymous dead soldier on the field, the desperate fight, the common man and death.

However

That is not to stop individual priests with individual dead patrons from using symbols for them - in fact it is encouraged. Symbols help the common man remember where the written word is often beyond them

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post Apr 15 2010, 08:00 PM
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Allow me to make a suggestion, even though I am taking my leave of the faith.

I suggest a Reliquary. I am sure that there is a common enough design within the Empire that would present the faith succinctly.

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post Apr 15 2010, 10:13 PM
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How about a sand timer symbolising that despite the passage of time we never forget.

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post Apr 15 2010, 10:40 PM
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Personally I'd like something simple... like a particular coloured scarf... worn round the neck, on a belt, arm... whatever. It means that I don't have to put the symbol on all my gear.

I saw some great "Skulls with red roses" material the other day.

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post Apr 16 2010, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(TimTreadwell @ Apr 15 2010, 11:40 PM) *
Personally I'd like something simple... like a particular coloured scarf... worn round the neck, on a belt, arm... whatever. It means that I don't have to put the symbol on all my gear.

I saw some great "Skulls with red roses" material the other day.

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Thanks all for your input, it has certainly been interesting to see the sheer volume of ideas.

I wasn't aware we already had a symbol as such, so apologies. I should probably know better but no one else knew so I don't feel too awful.

I am now thinking, maybe a book with a broken sword on it?

Thorn, I like your idea of something simple, like a particular coloured scarf or some such, but I will let all these ideas sink in a little before making a decision.

Luther, I am unsure about the hourglass, but only due to it being the symbol of one of our foes within the Land of Legend.

If any more ideas arise, keep them coming Ladies and Gentlemen.

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QUOTE(Carlo @ Apr 16 2010, 08:34 AM) *
Luther, I am unsure about the hourglass, but only due to it being the symbol of one of our foes within the Land of Legend.


OOC: A white hourglass on green is the heraldry of House Natal.
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post Apr 16 2010, 08:58 AM
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Traditional symbols of courage include

Lion
Unicorn
A Cockerel
A Hound
Spear or Lance

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I reckon that lad Thorn has the right idea. Some sorta scarf or sash, proberly red (looks like blood o' the fallen dunnit).

Course, havin' a proper symbol ain't an issue...we could 'ave both. Evry faithful wears a red scarf/sash fing an' the church symbol can be worn if people wanna, or flown on banners from the churches.

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