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JackFlashblade
post Dec 10 2020, 10:38 PM
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For those of you with some time on your hands, the challenge for this Friday (should you wish to accept it) is:

1. Choose and standard race and and standard class (may be a ns mix)

2. Sprinkle in L.6 Elder Fey - with choice of powers

3. Add an extra minor and Major power, following the standard rules for doing so

4. If you wish add a few notes on progression, such as planed MC's.


Each should have a theme, eg Tough stats, The Carlo (as many different bracket powers as possible), or whatever.

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DavidFisher
post Dec 11 2020, 11:50 AM
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The obvious one is dwarf budoka so I'll avoid that

Ishmaic Calibrim Druid

1/2 spirit to defend against the weakness of expensive spiritual attacks
Gain the winds for magical defence (plus city evocations)
Wanderer's Hunch via Owl talisman
The Touch for interesting (left field) problem solving
EP for defence and healing (taking City, River and Mountain for earthmeld, walk thru wall, healing and kallah benefits)

Major powers:
Spiritual Invis - I know can be replicated with EP but it's pricy and Spirit Invis is a miracle you will cast every adventure without fail
Enhanced mindblock - see progression below

Minor Powers:
Neuronic blast 1/2 levels - hard to get and potent
Detect Magic at will for 1TBLP

Progression:
Active tree for walk on air and passwall, using enhanced mindblock to defend against neuronic encounters
Buy the Winds
Buy EP, consider MCing to Forest Guardian for base life and ELOL if you want to stay bracket pure or seer if not for a 2nd way to get involved (warrior or Defender of Nature if you want to be more fighty)

Its fun from Day 1 with plenty of ways to contribute and by 1500 you can do a lot of things with Wanderer's hunch, 24/24 druidic heal, life, AC and left field abilities. By 3k you have defences against magic, spirit and neuronic, enough life to swing a staff and a lot of versatility.

Non-standard improvements to the Touch (so it works on lines, does more interesting things like strength drain or wither, can be used to negate incoming spells like a deny power and your innates regenerate / @ will for 5 mins etc)

Might never solo the day but will be a character that's always fun and can contribute throughout career

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giles
post Dec 11 2020, 07:23 PM
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Bit similar in some ways to David's (both Ishmaic)

The Convergence

Samila
Elder Fey

A place spirit from the Athfash Ban Mir – just not this one. Character is a place spirit when the Nagrech was in Ishma but a version of reality when the feylords ruled Primus, prior to a convergence

½ spirit, ½ magic, no mind
Passwalls and Earthshift, Meld with Stone
can buy the 7 winds

Major
Fear Evil@will 6 Levels and below
Blink 1/3 Levels + buy 6 more


Minor
Enhanced Rec Mana @will
Double Effect Druidic Heal

Probably go 7th/8th Elder Fey to buy further Minor & Major Talents (there was a Lucky Dip 7th/8th Elder Fey that gave that and Imm to Non Beneficial F&B) - get more magical and spiritual innates. Lots of shifts, probably go Scholar for problem solving and get a multiclass that allows you to play your own Stone Golems for when you fancy a bit of a fight.

A couple of people got NS Samila Leywalkers in a lucky dip/25th anniversary character - this might be a way around their awfulness (I doubt it)

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post Dec 11 2020, 11:09 PM
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Sorry David, illegal spend: You can't have Enhanced Mindblock in conjunction with Non-Passive / Non-Active Tree Neuronics (/ Neurall Focii)

So, no Neuronic Blasts.

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post Dec 11 2020, 11:21 PM
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So can someone with half spirit or half effect magic still get the innate miracles and spells?


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Alasdair
post Dec 12 2020, 08:14 AM
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So this is a good challenge. It starts with the meta gaming challenge of ‘who benefits from half a spirit’... dwarf and ishmaic are the obvious answers.

I add Troll...
a neutral troll warrior (with lots of regen), accessing x2FX Druidic heal and Spirit Invis innates, and then Jump 1/level and Blinks. Or maybe +5 PAC

Non-standards: ‘Fey smarts’ for some intelligence, if PAC selected then there is a good case to stay bracket locked and use skin as heavy armour to go down the Armour Master route. Though this fails the Carlo omni-bracket challenge so maybe MC Druid instead. Elder Fey offers a route to be able to regen fire and spirit maybe. And I like the idea of being a Mist Troll; gaining Ebony Drave innates post 6th Elder Fey (a points app I had years ago for a Troll Thug). Fey L7&8 offers lots of opportunity.



More fun is to mess around with L2 elder Fey:

Using the ‘elf’ option to not go to half spirit, the option is there for keeping full spirit. In which case fighty types might go for the total heals.

Or maybe a Frozen Tiger Tribe warrior or paladin buying a ‘soul elf’ option with L2 non-standard to be ‘half effect magic as dwarf, but may not now buy magical innates’.



But to honour the spirit of the Carlo challenge I think:

Rasha Spy MC Seer MC Thug (for some life) goodly

Taking elder Fey for jump, total heal, x2FX Druidic heal and fireblade
You’d buy utilise EP item and buy up some Druidic heal talisman for healing, use solitaire (without items, using ki strikes and fire blades for supernatural damage: at least until you can afford the solitaire buffs to keep items), and major on comms, invis and shift psionics. This gives you magic, spirit, psionic and some EP on a character who can easily get to some decent backstabs as a secondary fighter; and you can also give out some buffs with Rasha.

Points apps in this case: building on the Rasha 1/d buff handout, certainly including lucky ideas and lesser comms abilities. Perhaps seek to make mantic the fire blades. And Level 7&8 Elder Fey for some more fruity supernatural powers - advanced spells, and ability to cast onto allies (on top of the Order of Mercs ability)


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post Dec 12 2020, 08:25 AM
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So my concept would be a re-think of a half ogre. The essential thinking being that my ogre mother (bless her soul) fell in love with an elf (let us go with an earth elf as one could imagine an earth elf being a bit tubbier than those skinny other elves) and I am the product of that union - hence the half spirit.

So, in essence, using the Elder Fey MR concept for a slightly different approach - half ogre/half elf - so fat with pointy ears and light brown skin make up.

In terms of talents would start with Chameleon (s) as the minor talent and enhanced mindblock (conceptually on the basis I am too thick to be affected by neuronics).

For the second round of talents would try and get an affirm (needs a points app in which I would get this expressly as "I affirm my nature is that of earth"); if sonof is being mean again then take Ensnare (and pretend it is entangle) and super missile as the major (with a stash of skulls to use as the phys reps)

Not going to set the world alight (he prefers his worlds raw) but an interesting concept potentially.



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fatteacher
post Dec 12 2020, 09:25 AM
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Spirit Invis or Blink? If you can’t choose both, what would you go for?


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Godric Snowsson - Warrior/Wizard/Warrior Priest - 7.8k
Ginkgo Panama - Kensai/Warrior Priest - 4.9k
Grandbow - Human Spirit Warrior - 663pts
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Edd
post Dec 12 2020, 04:42 PM
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Karlo the Kallah

Kallah > Stalker > Hanot (140 points for life, a resistance level and cool roleplay message using a mirror).

You're a Deci Kallah (because auto Res but also the Deci assassin's status) that did a stint in Bildteve (in the pits, for FAP). Fully active for neuromastery.

Eldar fae - plate (s), spirit invis, then druidic heal and the neuro blasts.

Use 7th and 8th to get buy multiple minor and major and cherry pick whatever you want.

Need to fight? AC 12 and a 50% rage (hell, go fury within: don't kill your mates and have a 75% rage)

Need to scout? Eldar fae nets you elemental rec mana and guage spirit, chameleon (s) and (o) that can be walking with stalker add ons. And specialist+GSB gets you 8 on first blow - keeping max damage quad.

Need to be a wizard? You can have pretty much any spell as an innate - pick wisely! A dispel 10 isn't even a terrible idea...

Need to be a priest? Neutral for Comms and warding stuff. Not the best, but Lee might let you try for a major sphere and some advanced?

Need to be a druid? You can heal yourself 24/24 and can buy unlimited druidic heals at 30 points a pop. Apparently there are other evocations you can buy, but why would you?

Need to have mind bullets? You have loads. Buy enough neuro powers and Lee might let you have focii!

Who needs dabbler? Trade of your tendancies for more city benefits because I'm sure Tangle doesn't mind sharing.

Bonus N/S race combos:
Halfling - enjoy 1/2fx damaging magic
Half Elf - get some dark elf shadow shifts and cheaper eldar fae!
Alfar - cheap eldar fae, wanderer's hunch and a blag for blessing of the city spirits becoming a 'standard evocation' for EF innates.

Spent too long thinking about this. See you on a dungeon soon.


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