Walk Through Walls = Undead? |
Walk Through Walls = Undead? |
Oct 19 2021, 02:31 PM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,752 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Oxford Member No.: 48 |
Asking for a friend....
Walk Through Walls is a Major Necromancy miracle. The verbal, however, is "transform my body to that AKIN to a wraith". It doesn't say you are summoning or embodying a wraith. For the purposes of religious fascism, do we think that this counts as summoning undead? I suspect that given the verbal calls on 'undead spirits' it is probably verboten if you're avoiding undead, but it's weirdly worded. Matt |
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Oct 19 2021, 02:38 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 3,488 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Petts Wood Member No.: 62 |
I’d say you are fine if got ‘must kill undead’ restrictions and then depends on your roleplay
Asking for a friend.... Walk Through Walls is a Major Necromancy miracle. The verbal, however, is "transform my body to that AKIN to a wraith". It doesn't say you are summoning or embodying a wraith. For the purposes of religious fascism, do we think that this counts as summoning undead? I suspect that given the verbal calls on 'undead spirits' it is probably verboten if you're avoiding undead, but it's weirdly worded. Matt -------------------- Lord Knight problems... Contact Stacey. I'm free!
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Oct 19 2021, 02:39 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 52 |
It is not summoning or embodying an undead.
Just like Paralysis Touch & Freeze Touch as the necromancy miracles are not undead touch fxs. They are evil spirits however. -------------------- Gordon Court
Port Miere business: portmierecitycouncil@gmail.com Known to play: Amorphus, Radiant & Zaton Cast of 2009: Amorphus, Ash, Cyric, Godstone, Kessel, Prowl, Mithaniel, Radiant, Raven, Strale, Void & Vorell Cast of 2010: Amorphus, Aqueous, Blaen, Godstone, Hex, Kessel, Mithaniel, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Vanderlaine & Void Cast of 2011: Cyric, Hex & Prowl Cast of 2012: Kessel Cast of 2013: Amorphus, Golgari, Kessel, Marimar, Radiant, Strale & "Terry" Cast of 2014: Amorphus, Hex, Godstone, Golgari, Ink-Eyes, Radiant & Strale Cast of 2015: Amorphus, Karador, Radiant, Strale & Zaton Cast of 2016: Zaton Cast of 2017: Amorphus, Equinox, Godstone, Golgari, Hex, Karador, Prowl, Radiant, Variel & Zaton Cast of 2018: Amorphus, Despair, Equinox, Golgari, Karador, Lannary, Prowl, Templeton, Vanderlaine, Void & Zaton Cast of 2019: Amorphus, Despair, Kodai No Ha, Lannary, Prowl, Radiant & Zaton Cast of 2020: Amorphus, Isamaru, Karador, Kodai No Ha, Lannary, Radiant, Strale & Zaton Cast of 2021: Amorphus, Grizzled Wolf, Isamaru, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Wrynn & Zaton Cast of 2022: Golgari, Ink-Eyes, Lannary, Leovold, Prowl, Radiant, Shadowmoss, Strale, Wrynn & Zaton Cast of 2023: Isamaru, Leovold, Numai, Radiant & Zaton |
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Oct 19 2021, 02:40 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 3,718 Joined: 14-December 07 Member No.: 242 |
Definitely using an undead spirit in all the examples, but not summoning one, imo.
Heather |
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Oct 19 2021, 02:45 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 4,045 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 110 |
Well that sounds like an interesting new direction for Iggy...
C |
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Oct 19 2021, 03:01 PM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,752 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Oxford Member No.: 48 |
I don't know why you presume it's for Iggy, Christine, rather than for one of the other cast of thousands....
Matt |
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Oct 19 2021, 03:13 PM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 278 Joined: 19-June 20 Member No.: 8,170 |
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Oct 19 2021, 03:42 PM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,548 Joined: 27-July 08 From: Medway Member No.: 608 |
Akin = Similar to...
Therefore you are asking evil spirits to basically transform you to something similar to a wraith, not an actual wraith. -------------------- Thade - Ebony Fire Winter Rogue / Ebony & Jade Wizard
Gast - Mantic Chromatic Immortal Half Elf Wizard Geist - Iron & Empire Dark Spirit of Glass Hiro - Definitely not an Assassin Skarlon - Tryst Noclo Warrior with Spirit innates Simon - St Michael Paladin |
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Oct 19 2021, 04:29 PM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,756 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Guildford Member No.: 1,355 |
If it looks like a wraith and quacks like a wraith….
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Oct 19 2021, 05:04 PM
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Levy Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 23-November 17 Member No.: 6,331 |
Asking for a friend.... Walk Through Walls is a Major Necromancy miracle. The verbal, however, is "transform my body to that AKIN to a wraith". It doesn't say you are summoning or embodying a wraith. For the purposes of religious fascism, do we think that this counts as summoning undead? I suspect that given the verbal calls on 'undead spirits' it is probably verboten if you're avoiding undead, but it's weirdly worded. Matt Hi Matt, If your friend is on the Mortai GS Saturday, I would advise him to tread carefully. |
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Oct 19 2021, 05:30 PM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,752 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Oxford Member No.: 48 |
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Oct 19 2021, 05:45 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 4,750 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Rochester Member No.: 119 |
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Oct 20 2021, 09:16 AM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,556 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Claphham Member No.: 44 |
Maybe kill them on the off chance that "transform my body to that akin of a wraith" is a euphemism for embodying a Wight.
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