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Jasper
post Oct 12 2012, 08:16 AM
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I'm curious - how many people actually use the option to convert Credits into Monster Points?

I'm under the impression that not many do and I wonder what the point of having an option which nobody uses might be. I also wonder how much money the caves could make by reabsorbing credits in this way.


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post Oct 12 2012, 08:28 AM
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post Oct 12 2012, 08:34 AM
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Having an option which is used infrequently, which doesn't incur overheads through its lack of use, offers no benefits to the consumer if it is withdrawn.

Maybe another way of looking at the question could be "does the usage of the exchange of monster points to credits show how valued monster points are compared to credits" Perhaps instead of [Monster Points + Credits] the option to be rewarded for monstering could be [Monster Points + Monster Points].

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post Oct 12 2012, 08:37 AM
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I use it once in a while, when my csa (credit support agency) payments are low enough.

I'd probably use it a bit more if the rate was better.

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post Oct 12 2012, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(Jan @ Oct 12 2012, 09:34 AM) *
Having an option which is used infrequently, which doesn't incur overheads through its lack of use, offers no benefits to the consumer if it is withdrawn.

Maybe another way of looking at the question could be "does the usage of the exchange of monster points to credits show how valued monster points are compared to credits" Perhaps instead of [Monster Points + Credits] the option to be rewarded for monstering could be [Monster Points + Monster Points].

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Yeah, that was sort of where I was going.



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post Oct 12 2012, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(sonof @ Oct 12 2012, 09:37 AM) *
I use it once in a while, when my csa (credit support agency) payments are low enough.

I'd probably use it a bit more if the rate was better.

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Ditto.

Used it once or twice in the past (when I was funding the Caerfloren teaching scroll collection), may well do so again, would do more often if the rate was slightly better.

As Jan says, I don't see a big reason to drop it, given there is no real overhead.

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QUOTE(Jasper @ Oct 12 2012, 09:42 AM) *
Yeah, that was sort of where I was going.
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post Oct 12 2012, 09:46 AM
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I've used it once, before myths when I was making a monster point item and I ran out. I think the rate should be slightly better to make it more attractive to players.

However I think there is a concern that increasing the rate too much would devalue monster points as they would be easier to get (for some people) and it would mean they would therefore monster/aref/ref less as they can fulfil their monster point requirements with less days at the caves. Currently it means that even if you convert your monster points it doesn't mean you could stop monstering/reffing at the caves, but if it was increased to say 1 to 5 ratio maybe people would be less inclined to help out as they would have all the monster points they require.

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post Oct 12 2012, 10:56 AM
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I've never used it; just doesn't seem worth while value.

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post Oct 12 2012, 03:20 PM
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1:5 ratio... It'd be a lot nicer for the monsters and a much larger incentive, given that it'd mean they'd get 100 mp's just for booking on before Wednesday and going to help out once a week, however, if memory serves, I was told that one must get to something like 1k monster points to be able to a-ref, among a few other pre req's. Now that'd mean they only have to monster ten times, where as others will have had to monster about 25 times just to reach that mark, might make some peeps feel like others are getting it too easy, not to mention that people would have mp items way more powerful... So if that were to go up I believe the GSM might depreciate the value of monster points, so as to not have everybody with an amazing spirit dagger, an amazing magic dagger and a butt load of extra health...

Although now I think of it, I might be going into something over my head...

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post Oct 12 2012, 04:36 PM
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After I got 120 Monster points and 80 credits for the 4 Day Jasper and I mentioned how we would both have rather had 360 Monster points!

That is basically a 3 - 1 Ratio...
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post Oct 12 2012, 04:43 PM
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On the other hand, some people definitely appreciate the credits - dropping the price of a day's play makes hopping over on the train to the caves a lot more tempting to me.

I'm sure there are people who'd like [Monster Points + More Monster Points] as their reward for monstering, but I have a feeling the existence of credits gets the club a net profit from the Skint Student demographic. wink.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 05:25 PM
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I would totally swap my credits for more mp at a decent rate


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post Oct 14 2012, 10:32 PM
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I'm sure we chatted about this before and the rate got changed?

Perhaps the questions should be has there actually been an increase in conversion following the rate increase?
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post Oct 17 2012, 06:49 AM
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I've used it a few times. Wouldn't want to see it go.

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post Oct 17 2012, 07:29 AM
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Being new to the current system I haven;t used my MP yet but being able to get decent gear for my first adventure is really good - have chainmail so as I have monstered a few times so can my new character.

As far as credits are concerned I maybe a little unique here but I would rather support the club and pay full price as I can and get a higher transfer rate but other people would prefer credits.

Out of interest what is the credit to MP rate of transfer or can this not be done - stupid question but i prefer that type smile.gif


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post Oct 17 2012, 08:04 AM
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Hi Rich,

I believe it's 2:1 (two MPs for each credit). More details can be found here:

http://www.labyrinthe.co.uk/forum/index.ph...&hl=credits

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post Oct 17 2012, 09:18 AM
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Ok, secondary question?

How many people monster purely to get monster points?

and

Would having a large number of monster points in the bank reduce the amount that they monster?


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post Oct 17 2012, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(Jasper @ Oct 17 2012, 10:18 AM) *
Ok, secondary question?

How many people monster purely to get monster points?

and

Would having a large number of monster points in the bank reduce the amount that they monster?
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Well, so long as you could still choose between (monster points + credits) and (monster points + monster points) I imagine that having a lot of monster points would still have minmal impact on how often you monstered, yuio could just go back to taking credits. Besides, its pretty difficult to accrue a large stockpile, the latest monsterpoint options are pretty good and expensive point wise. You will always have stuff you could spend the points on! And the higher level options require you to spend those on a day that you actually monster.

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post Oct 17 2012, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(Jasper @ Oct 17 2012, 10:18 AM) *
How many people monster purely to get monster points?


It's the biggest consideration


QUOTE(Jasper @ Oct 17 2012, 10:18 AM) *
Would having a large number of monster points in the bank reduce the amount that they monster?


Doubtful. I always seem to be running out


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