Is this how we treat each other now ? |
Is this how we treat each other now ? |
Jan 31 2022, 12:01 AM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,051 Joined: 1-July 14 From: Preseli, North Pembrokeshire Member No.: 3,807 |
So, prior to going on this weekends mission I spoke privately to our Thane and an agreement come to that I would not be shall we say 'ecclesiastical' about my faith on this mission as the clan is that, family so regardless of any of our individual beliefs we were to come together on a common purpose united by a common bond.
Despite this however, I was asked to describe my church and its fundamental beliefs on one particular occasion for which I gave a succinct response (considering the above) which was then thrown back at me on more than one occasion as unsatisfying - mainly during the quieter moments of exploring different areas. I was reminded constantly that my faith was not 'natural' and if I must be honest, it did start to become a little irritating by the middle of the second day and towards the end of our venture I was quite happy to be returning home - this for me is a first. I was called 'unnatural' in my new form as an 'Angel of War' and reminded repeatedly that I could be subjected to a 'hand of banishment' much to the delight and glee of the dwarf able to do this - seriously, when has even thinking such a thing has become reasonable to a member of your own family ?!? When significant events concerning the old faith came up and I was conversing with a significant being I found myself repeatedly interupted and a profound lack of respect was shown to me and this event at this point - something I certainly did not do myself when a dead piece of the world tree was recovered whose loss I too mourn. So in short, I am annoyed to say the least by my treatement by my fellow kin over this weekend - I expected more flexibility and would ask that such individuals perhaps consider that mentioning things like this 'constantly' really is quite tiresome and not once did I put down, dismiss or judge your chosen paths. If you wish to discuss matters of faith, devotion and views of such things, then I would suggest that this is left to a more scholarly time where we can reflect on our different outlooks seeking common ground and not constantly during a mission and certainly not with threats whether in jest or not of banishments. Dagda Sonnlinor High Priest Church of Soul Forger -------------------- James Pink
"“Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it”" Soul Forger : Dagda Sonnlinor 3900 points Soul Forger : Emdar Deepfinder Paladin 1500 points Earthsunder : Blackthorn Druid 500 points The Hovel : Cain, Witch 1195 points Church of Iron & Empire : Joram Blacksmith 7k Church of Iron & Empire / 18th Legion : Blackstones Black Unholy Champion 2k Shaehan : Luke 2400 points Roarke 5k |
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Jan 31 2022, 04:49 AM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 4,492 Joined: 26-November 07 From: London Member No.: 158 |
Dear Dada,
I am saddened to hear this. I must admit to not having noticed anything like this yesterday but yes, it is very disappointing to hear this. I am sure the persons involved could only have meant things in jest, but I know that sometimes there is a line and I am equally sure that now that you have vocalised this you will see an end to it. Eklin -------------------- Will Power - will@labyrinthe.co.uk
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Jan 31 2022, 08:05 AM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,520 Joined: 19-February 19 From: London Member No.: 6,995 |
Oi Dagda
Which little prick was it? You’ve always done a bang up job for us Dwarves and I for one take personal issue with any jumped up little idiot who’s going to bait you and use, let’s be honest, passively threatening language about hands of banishment. Your faith views and mine may not always align but we’re Dwarves and that kind of stuff don’t matter when it comes to supporting each other and drinking ales together. If anyone who thinks this is a good way to approach our former leader and still part of the heart of the clan, would like to come and have a chat with me in private, I’m very happy to help “educate” you on the error of your ways. And Dagda, being the good sort that he is, I’m sure will be on hand to patch you up after. Support the clan. ‘Nuff said. Reshtar |
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Jan 31 2022, 08:19 AM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 306 Joined: 17-July 16 From: Caterham on the hill Member No.: 4,896 |
Lord Dagda has been insulted!
Apologies to him (You know who you are) Nothing to see here, move along. Percy of Earthsunder. |
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Jan 31 2022, 09:08 AM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,138 Joined: 24-December 07 Member No.: 263 |
Hello all,
I would like to thank the clan for a hearty welcome, and I know my ways are a little different, But I would never try or say a thing which was going harm a fellow member. Dagda was very understanding with me And for this I am truly grateful. The isle I come from has no religious faith and so I could not help my natural suspicion, but I am here for that Reason to learn of theses strange things (the spookiest as I call them). Dagda knows my ways are different and I did give him a few digs in jest on the first day and he knows this, and he took it very well. He also got me back when I had to Ask for help, hah good one Dagda you deserved to get me there… Dagda has assured me that I have not caused a problem , and I will try to understand the spookies more. My thanks for your great welcome I am now studying some things to help more. Balyndis Warden of the Sunken Mountain -------------------- Sarah Williams
Characters Queen Gerehax (Dwarven Queen) 27k Tweegle - Jade crusader of Michael 15k (not a thief or a liar) Sushi Panama - Panther Spirit 13k Tetsu Ko - Chieftain raging bear tribe 9k Lantolas - Paladin of frozen tiger tribe 2k Ganbaru - Kensai of Chisana Nezumi clan 1.5k |
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Jan 31 2022, 09:46 AM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 5,155 Joined: 28-March 08 From: Ottershaw Member No.: 446 |
Dagda,
I will send a private missive. I am happy to help should a second be required to champion your cause. Personally, I have refrained from my more natural instincts when it comes to other clan members at your behest as both my High Priest and Clan Elder. It is a shame if this decency from you has not been reciprocated. Corrie |
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Jan 31 2022, 12:47 PM
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Heldsman Group: Administrators Posts: 874 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Cudham Member No.: 80 |
Dagda, I didn't notice this occurring and if I had, I'd have asked it to stop.
Firstly, if this is happening, call it out as it does. Then we can deal with it there and then, sending missives by elemental never gets the words across right I find. I'm sorry you felt you couldn't speak up. To all of you: gallows humour is all well and good, but I trust each of you to know when a joke goes too far. I will not have any of our clan feel belittled and unwelcome amongst their kin. If you are asked to stop. Stop. If you don't feel you can say to one of your brothers to stop, then tell me and I will. Dagda, if you want to take this further, call someone out and we can take it from there - otherwise I admire everyone's desire to protect Dagda's honour, but he's a big dwarf and can handle himself, as several knolls, ice demons and undead found out yesterday. Let's stop swinging proverbial axes around. I agree that now this has been said, I shouldn't see it happening again. - Gavalar Thane of Earthsunder -------------------- edd@labyrinthe.co.uk
Known to play: Mahō No Fukurō, Gavalar Earthsunder, Alecto Pentangle, Ishan bin Akir, Basil the Great Rat Detective |
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Jan 31 2022, 01:46 PM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,051 Joined: 1-July 14 From: Preseli, North Pembrokeshire Member No.: 3,807 |
Thank you one and all for your comments. My intention was merely to create a dialogue and an understanding with maybe come mutual respect and acceptance of each others ways which I am sure can be achieved. Thane Gav is also quite right, I am a little different from when we last met - my mace is ready for any and all who threaten the clan ! See you all in the tavern to discuss and argue over head counts on the defender... 'Khazad ai-menu!' Dagda -------------------- James Pink
"“Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it”" Soul Forger : Dagda Sonnlinor 3900 points Soul Forger : Emdar Deepfinder Paladin 1500 points Earthsunder : Blackthorn Druid 500 points The Hovel : Cain, Witch 1195 points Church of Iron & Empire : Joram Blacksmith 7k Church of Iron & Empire / 18th Legion : Blackstones Black Unholy Champion 2k Shaehan : Luke 2400 points Roarke 5k |
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Jan 31 2022, 02:02 PM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 737 Joined: 8-March 10 From: Bromley Member No.: 1,410 |
See you all in the tavern to discuss and argue over head counts on the defender... 'Khazad ai-menu!' Dagda Sorry Dagda, There's nuthin to Discuss, I clearly won..... Even if it was just because of the combat roll!! (which that wasn't the only reason) Gideon -------------------- Tristan - Angel of the Virtues - Imrazil's Champion.
Slinky - Grizzled Black Orc - Axe Wielder. Vambrael - Angel - Warrior Priest of Michael. |
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Jan 31 2022, 03:06 PM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,138 Joined: 24-December 07 Member No.: 263 |
Ha ha, I lost because I swore I saw a vein of Mithril in several walls, but it was a trick of the light,
Shame it was, but yes I clearly lost by a long way , but I had too check. Balyndis -------------------- Sarah Williams
Characters Queen Gerehax (Dwarven Queen) 27k Tweegle - Jade crusader of Michael 15k (not a thief or a liar) Sushi Panama - Panther Spirit 13k Tetsu Ko - Chieftain raging bear tribe 9k Lantolas - Paladin of frozen tiger tribe 2k Ganbaru - Kensai of Chisana Nezumi clan 1.5k |
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Feb 1 2022, 07:38 AM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,930 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 98 |
I will stand here and admit, majority if not all of what Dagda has mentioned is most likely about me and my interactions with him.
I will also stand here and now and say, Dagda, I am sorry... I know you as a good and upstanding Dwarf and if I caused genuine upset then I am again sorry for it. Not excusing myself but I do believe that my happiness of being back with my brethren after several months running with my pack was the catalyst for my actions, but with my clansman I over stepped the mark while joking and being frivolous with my tongue. I now know why you ignored me when I was trying to say well done on how you dealt with the spiritual undead beasties that would have surely killed many of us if not for your action. Next time brother, tell me, talk to me then and there. We are of the North and we call things out and deal with it head on... I would have stayed my tongue if I knew it was causing upset to any Dwarf. I will neigh speak on this matter again. Brothers. David Luckbringer, Earthsunder Clan Silver Paws 5th wolf Wielder of Golems Bane |
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Feb 1 2022, 09:27 AM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 5,155 Joined: 28-March 08 From: Ottershaw Member No.: 446 |
Nicely said David,
I'll get a round in when we next meet Corrie |
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Feb 1 2022, 10:47 AM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,520 Joined: 19-February 19 From: London Member No.: 6,995 |
That all seems good.
Fair play Lucky. Settled then Reshtar |
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Feb 1 2022, 11:35 AM
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Levy Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 6-December 14 Member No.: 4,040 |
What what what! I missed the fight I assure you I will win on the kill count always! Dagda knows that one, glad to hear you are back and would love to see you in the forge or the fight pits some time! Hopefully we can all catch up soon!
God is judging you! Evior Raging flame of the soul forger |
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Feb 1 2022, 12:30 PM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 306 Joined: 17-July 16 From: Caterham on the hill Member No.: 4,896 |
Well said David, very honourable of you.
Thank you, I look forward to seeing your fighting prowess again for the clan! Percy of Earthsunder. |
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Feb 1 2022, 02:41 PM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,051 Joined: 1-July 14 From: Preseli, North Pembrokeshire Member No.: 3,807 |
Wasnt that the Golem which could only be killed from behind ? does that even count ?
Dagda -------------------- James Pink
"“Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it”" Soul Forger : Dagda Sonnlinor 3900 points Soul Forger : Emdar Deepfinder Paladin 1500 points Earthsunder : Blackthorn Druid 500 points The Hovel : Cain, Witch 1195 points Church of Iron & Empire : Joram Blacksmith 7k Church of Iron & Empire / 18th Legion : Blackstones Black Unholy Champion 2k Shaehan : Luke 2400 points Roarke 5k |
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Feb 1 2022, 05:08 PM
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Heldsman Group: Administrators Posts: 874 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Cudham Member No.: 80 |
It was two Golems that could only be killed from behind...I did see David get them both.
And well said David, well said. - Gavalar Thane -------------------- edd@labyrinthe.co.uk
Known to play: Mahō No Fukurō, Gavalar Earthsunder, Alecto Pentangle, Ishan bin Akir, Basil the Great Rat Detective |
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