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> Ghoul Berserker concept, will it even make alive til the end of a dungeon
gormaden
post May 23 2016, 02:45 PM
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So I am toying with a undead ghoul berserker idea for a new tryst character - The smell of blood drives him nuts
Just trying to see if anyone has anything similar passed -

Regenerates a portion of the attacked enemy's current health.
Closest I can find is based around steal life essence but I need it to last a combat? Feasible?

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This allows the XXX to drain the life of a victim. For every 5 secs of effective active combat (striking blows that are doing at least 6pts a blow) the user is cured 1 (TBLP and to the same location) in a similar manner to empathic healing.
A maximum of 12 life may be drained (so 1 cured) per 5 seconds. (Effectively this allows 12 life to per cured).
The duration ends when combat ends. Only works on F&B (or edible) targets.

As a berserker no one sensible is going to be in the combat with me so need something that will keep me alive until I can buy fury within. Would it make more sense to buy fury within (While Raging can distinguish between friend and foe. As such only has to attack those that are directly hostile to the character. ) and then berserker?

In addition can the berserking only kick in on edible targets? - I am not going to be able to consume golems and elves for example

Assimilate
Another concept - swallowing my "victim" whole. Anything similar out there?
XXX swallows a hero, allowing them to hide inside him. All his resistances apply. When an assimilated hero leaves XXX, they erupt outwards, damaging him for X/XX and stunned for X secs.


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post May 23 2016, 03:11 PM
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Can't have berserker and the rage MC, speak to me when I am down I got a berserker to 10k

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post May 23 2016, 03:13 PM
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Berserkers can't buy fury within I don't believe.

Start as a troll and go undead - you would have regen that way... Obviously Miles has done it but if you want constant healing there is literally no better way for an undead... I'd suggest talking to Miles and getting his 2 cents...

As someone who played a berserker who could be healed it is really hard keeping yourself up as it is I think being unhealable is too big a disadvantage (sometimes you just need a total to wipe the slate clean).

Maybe a Tradition that means Berserker only applies to flesh and blood targets and be an ogre base or similar but I think that means your reductions become too limited on days when there is nothing alive to fight and you lose masses of points on not being able to apply things to certain opponents.
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post May 23 2016, 03:43 PM
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I have some things from my rage m/c that go down the Beserker route if you want to and you could obviously write a follow no "I'm even more angry" m/c from being a Berserker if you wanted to.

I would suggest buying Fury Within, then upgrading to get 33% @ will, then 50% @ will. My rage m/c gives me 33% cold rage @ will and a post-6th to make it 50% @ will, but the rage is berserk.

Getting discern friend from foe while in a berserk rage is passable (I have it passed).

In terms of healing as a ghoul. I would suggest things like the below:

- Temp life while raging - perfect because it just goes away after the fight.
- Being a troll as people have said - for regen.
- Healing from eating things you kill - I have this for my tree ghoul + a load of monk loc stuff based on eating dead flesh away.
- You might be able to get a power-up where you consume the soul of everyone you kill for 5 mins, healing you X.
- You might be able to get some form of Torrent type thing based on 1pt for every successful blow you land so long as you're hurting the target (don't put in by how much, you won't know and it is too difficult to use/ref), for 5 mins, but I'm not convinced. I think you'd be better off going down the snatch vitae/consume primal vitae/blood drain route if you want to do it via attacks.

I would generally advise against playing an undead combat character, especially a berserker, even as a base race troll, unless you have a really good idea where your healing is coming from. Even if you do, there will likely be zones of 'dead points' in your development where you have very little healing and are still taking lots of damage.

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post May 23 2016, 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the advice. This is a bit of a throw away fun character than could have limited shelf life but done for giggles.


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post May 23 2016, 09:47 PM
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Did a bbb give you that idea?

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post May 23 2016, 10:34 PM
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I once set an ogre blue magi berserker - who could Blink people into its stomach with the verbal 'get in my belly'
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post May 24 2016, 05:18 AM
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I reckon Vessel of the Dead in the new Races book would be the way to go, upgrading the basic 1-6 with embody ghoul abilities. You get to gain your 'humanity' but with all the fun of the role-play!

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