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post Feb 15 2019, 12:28 AM
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Dear all.
Those of the mercenary caste, those who hold authority of law such as the Covenant, the Magistrates and those members of the city watches, I write this missive as I have felt uncertain in how to obey many masters. Invariably we all do. The rule of Law, the rights of nobility, the duties of citizens, the ties of family, the sway of divinities and the strands of numerous powers pulling at us like marionettes.
I myself am a Knight of the Land, I have been granted tenancy by Lord Amorphous so am in some ways his vassal though he would never call upon me in that way. I am a worshipper of The Creator and I follow the teachings of Saint Michael. My heritage and blood mark me as one of the Silverfolk, but my outlook on existence means I have no bounty upon my head. I am glad to call the Empire my home.

I have read letters dating back a decade. I have read court cases from Mordreds Rest. I have seen the Covenant identify Radah as Wolfshead.
By his own word I have read his admission of guilt. By his actions I have seen enough to believe that he has truly changed.

To those who would prosecute the law. On all the occasions we have ventured together, I have not seen Radah of Michael commit a crime or felony. I have not encouraged any such act. Radah endeavours to be a Paragon of the Church. The teaching of Saint Michael helps him greatly. The teachings help me too. I consider Radah to be a friend.

Should Radah commit a crime or felony and I am there, if accused of Abetting a Wolfshead, then I will obviously surrender myself for the court to decide.
I cannot find any reference suggesting my association alone is a felony. I would expect quite a strong declaration, such as the introduction of Mawbdenism, so I hope this is correct in accordance with what is written. Even in Harlot’s list of felonies at Mordred’s Rest which has quite a few not listed elsewhere, it is only the Abetting of a Wolfshead that is felonius.

To my fellow Knights. I remain true to my vow. I remain true to you. If my friendships elsewhere cause you offence, because of a past I have no concept of, I hope the need to protect the land and it’s people still outweighs the theocratic and political conflicts and I will see you all within the Five Halls.

I changed a long long time ago. I didn’t have the choice though.

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post Feb 15 2019, 10:19 AM
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Ash,

Thank you for your missive, while I don't usually answer public missives I am on this occasion happy to do so as I suspect it will give a great deal of clarity to a good many people.

First and foremost sharing a Church with a known criminal will never be an offence. The thing people sometimes forget about Religions (being a Religious man myself) is that it is open to so much interpretation and those of a view, which is anti-social and causes them to be a danger to people are not reflective of their religion as a whole. In situations where Churches seek to undo the fabric of Society like the Destroyer or the Shadow of the First Evil then the Inquisition will outlaw a faith as a whole and anyone practising that faith can leave or be outlawed by association.

Simply turning up for a days hire and finding you are with a Wolfshead is also of course not a crime, if you feel confident in both your ability and conviction I'd urge you to bring them in to face justice but there is no obligation. In the unique case of Radah he is obviously too powerful to bring to justice yourself but the creature is the definition of a narcissist and just ignoring him will likely infuriate him more than trying to bring him in.

Now if you were to answer his call for help, cast spells and miracles to assist and empower him or even if required save his life then this would clearly be abetting the Wolfshead and would constitute a felony. I hasten to point out as yet none of his known conspirators have had charges levied against them.

That does not mean we the authorities should turn a blind eye and let him walk the Empire as if his crimes meant nought. Radah HAS murdered at least 7 mercenaries (there are clearly more), some were your Brother Knights should that mean anything to you (it does not matter from a legal stand point). Finally, he has Murdered a member of the Senate which gives us multiple counts of a crime of Great Import that carries a maximum sentence of Ritual Annihilation. This ignores all his felonies.

A lot is said around about Radah being reborn in the light. People who are reborn are not accountable for their past crimes in the eyes of the Law, this is a fact. I can however tell you with certainty his being reborn in light is actually that he was converted by Thor after a simple conversation he is the same mercenary he has always been – conniving, manipulative, devious and untrustworthy. Do not think for one second he has turned on the wheel because that is a fact as Covenant I can state without any fear of being wrong. I too have spoken with Thor in the past and his conversations are compelling and I pondered long on turning to that light myself but let me tell you it would have done nothing to change my view on the Law and how it should be upheld much as this chat has changed little in Radah.

This is the Oath every magistrate swears;
“I, NAME, do swear that I will serve and honour Her Imperial Majesty Truic Baddrass in the office of ..... I give my oath that I will do right and justice to all manner of people who may come before me without fear or favour, affection or bias. In the name of the Empress and all that I hold True I so swear.”
This Oath does not allow turning a blind eye because he is now hiding behind a White Aura.

I recently sent members of the Alguz watch of a goodly persuasion after Radah. I was sure the City councillors present would negotiate with the Watchmen but I achieved two things. Firstly we showed the Empire will not stand by and let Radah walk its Lands and Cities without so much as a weak disguise, he is a Wanted man and we must be seen to take those who kill Senators as a serious threat. Secondly, I made at least 3 members of the group genuinely engage with trying to get him to hand himself in which is of itself a victory. I congratulate those Watchmen who although unable to locate the Wolfshead thanks to their bravery and dedication we opened a dialogue. I understand still now a couple of my representatives still work to arrange a deal to bring the matter of Radah to a close but what he must understand is he isn't getting off with a slapped wrist as to date he has shown no remorse and his Crimes are far worse than most could ever have committed. I would continue to urge everyone he meets to make him show remorse and face Justice.

A closing statement on Radah, he was offered a deal whereby he is publicly executed and ritually bound such that should he ever be outlawed again he had no choice but be compelled by the throne to hand himself in to face justice. For this he would be free. This deal was eventually declined as he had fears that I could Outlaw him at a whim and then destroy him without defence – I have sworn an Oath that this would not the case but it seems he doesn’t Trust Vampires despite the Magistrate General having power of appeal and being a light soul also.

Tertius spoke with him at length and looked to have made headway and approached me with a new deal. It would remain the same except that only Tertius and the Magistrate General would have a say when he gave himself up. I chose to give up my power over Radah specifically to avoid him dealing with a Vampire. Still he declined over the fear that he would find Demons or Destroyer priests he must slay. Given Destroyer priests are all outlawed this is particularly weak but still we continue…. I will add to this Tertius is someone I know and trust and is ready to Swear the Oath of a magistrate to get this done and would judge Radah harshly if acting poorly I have no doubt.

SO The deal on the table which is the best he will get and he has declined for clarity - he is executed and FREE but if ever outlawed again must hand himself in to Tertius OR the Magistrate General (this is by Ritual and he will not be able to escape). The only way he can be outlawed automatically without his chosen representative having any say is killing another mercenary and his chosen representative would decide the punishment even in that case. I trust this person to be fair and Just so fear nothing from the offer.

This is the deal – the only person stopping this is Radah. I think you can all see by not taking it he is simply proving his inability to exist without the ability to kill Law abiding Imperial Mercenaries. This is the type of creature you are dealing with.

Louis Athanyn
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post Feb 15 2019, 10:29 AM
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I am a man of Faith. I don’t care for Law/Chaos. I care for what is right and what is wrong. I’m deeply sorry for anything I done in my previous life. However I am now a changed man, I will do whatever it takes to defend what I believe is right and what Michael needs me to do, as the Hand of Michael.

I have gave up the mantle of Primal Theft and gave the power to St Michael.

I haven’t attacked a mercenary since I have been of Michael bar Dr Drazik. I didn’t even defend myself against Gimly, if I was the old me I would of dropped him, however I listened to Tsu Ling and left, not because I am a coward but because I won’t fight other mercenaries that are doing what they believe is right for the greater good.

I will attack any and all Destroyer worshippers on sight and Argoth. They are known killers of mercenaries and I will protect mercenaries from them, whenever I get wiff they are about I will manifest to protect people so we can do what is right as mercenaries.

Being outlawed is a mortal term, I am happy to deal with this mortal issue but in a way that is correct.

The boat has been rocked recently and I have been redeemed for many years and I will stand with all of
My friends and allies regardless of danger. And I thank all my friends of allies coming to my aid and call and ignoring the stupidity of threats of being felons when we are dealing with real threats.

I also urge the covenant please stop sending people to attempt to arrest me, your never be able to arrest me u less I want to be arrested, all you do is endanger others, delay us when we are fighting the enemy and put your imperial pawns in danger, as if I’m about it’s oroably because something dangerous needs to be dealt with as a matter of urgency.


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post Feb 15 2019, 10:44 AM
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Louis,

Thank you for your detailed definition on the law with regards to helping Radah and any implications.

I find myself in a difficult situation as my mere presence enhances those benefits granted by our faith to all of its members, by the church itself.

This is not a castable effect, even though I do have those as well and would be able to not include an individual if so desired.

I would seek knowledge on my legal standing with regards to this matter, so that I may be better informed on my situation with regards to something not directly under my control.

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post Feb 15 2019, 12:48 PM
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Can I ask a question of Radah please?

I know we haven’t met before, but what are your thoughts on Tirama and Louis being cast out of the Knights of the Land?

Just wondering!

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post Feb 15 2019, 12:58 PM
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If the fella is a narcissist, why in Garus’ Blue Balls do people insist on talkin’ about him every 5 mins?

On the principles of belief is power which some teacher tried ta get me ta understand once, I’m not surprised if he does have an ego bigger than Torwin’s infamous bossom!

I heard my pal Refeal caught a badger with 5 legs. Shall we talk about that instead?

Just a thought...

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post Feb 15 2019, 01:50 PM
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If you have changed you would make amends for your past deeds

Pay the price for your actions. Turn yourself in
Until then, everything you do is suspicious and you will never have atoned for your actions. If your "conversion" is to mean anything, hand yourself in and take the Covenants deal

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post Feb 15 2019, 05:30 PM
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post Feb 15 2019, 06:15 PM
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Turns out this badger only has 4 legs. (He stuck a fur covered stick on its ar5e ta make it look like 5.)

But Tirra’ got smacked in tha face by a door jus’ now. Turns out a faerie was hidin’ in front of it that he couldn’t see!
Aaah... priceless...

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post Feb 15 2019, 06:20 PM
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People do indeed make mistakes Viktrum and they are given a second chance.
The Covenant is giving Radah a chance now:

"He is executed and FREE but if ever outlawed again must hand himself in to Tertius OR the Magistrate General (this is by Ritual and he will not be able to escape). The only way he can be outlawed automatically without his chosen representative having any say is killing another mercenary and his chosen representative would decide the punishment even in that case. I trust this person to be fair and Just so fear nothing from the offer."

Radah has not taken this deal, given that as a man of faith, he has taken on the vows and strictures of that faith which I imagine would weigh far more heavily than mere mortal laws - why not take such a deal, in penance for his previous crimes if nothing else. Many of us manage to go our entire mercenary careers without becoming outlawed for killing other mercenaries. Also a bit of perspective, The Covenant's jurisdiction isn't all encompassing across Primus, let alone the Exostance. If Radah doesn't or can't follow the pretty lenient rules which most mercenaries follow without much thought, perhaps there is some other corner of the Exostance where Michael needs him to be, I'm sure Primus would just about survive his absence.

Radah keeps bleating he's a changed man, given that less than two years ago he was styling himself the Mantle of Death and threatening to decapitate people, it's not unreasonable for the Covenant as part of Radah's second chance to build in some safeguards to protect other mercenaries and the ordinary people of Primus.

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post Feb 15 2019, 07:42 PM
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My thanks to Louis Athanyn, the Senator of Justice for sharing your view on what constitutes Abetting a Wolfshead. It is somewhat different to how I understand language and the written Law.
However, as you chose this public forum to describe at length how you perceive Radah of Michael, not just Wolfshead but as a creature, absent of any value to you, I am saddened by this. Please consider this:

In one breath you mention the oath you took as a Magistrate. Extolling no fear or favour, affection or bias but it does not feel that in this case that is easy for you. Your words have bias, you could not simply answer my question regarding the Law.
You gave up your power as Covenant in this case to broker a deal. Senator. to avoid bias, are you now withdrawn from all prosecutions in this manner?
It is apparent that being a Senator is not an easy thing if you want to remain within the trust of all.


I know that with Radah of Michael speaking openly here, my little letter might have been lost in the ensuing clamour. I feel a little overlooked. Radah (Shush).

Senate Consul, Willock Anelka. You spoke in response to Radah. Simply put. Concise and straightforward. Allow me to remind people that you are a Knight of the Land, Knight of Legend, prior Lord Seeker and Knight Consul due to your knowledge of such matters.

Perhaps, you might like to present your legal knowledge with regard to my question, I would welcome your thoughts.


Ash and Dust of Stars
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post Feb 15 2019, 07:54 PM
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Let me just clarify a few things.


Knights of the land stuff - it doesn’t affect me nor am I bothered about it. Nothing to do with me. It’s beyond me why a guild that defends the land harbours demons and undead.


Nev your wrong. It wasn’t under 2 yrs, I was redeemed 3 years ago.


To be absolutely frank with you lot, I won’t hand myself in, I am sorry for most of the crimes I done, some of them I am happywith killing of two evil high priests, that was good work.

I don’t care about imperial law, if I have to kill a evil demon lord and it gets me outlord so what? - if a noble of the blood is a demon, so what I would kill him. Good over comes evil.

If I need to protect what is right I will. I’m not fussed about the title of wolveshead, I said I would hand
Myself and be executed for my previous crimes because I’m sorry. But likelyhood is I might get outlawed in your mortal rulings for killing some evil demon at some point. That’s the reality.


In the eyes of the heavens I am not outlawed, outlawing is a mortal term, I am not outlawed, you lot can say I am but I am not, if you scry your see I am not, I’m not lying, I’m simply not as I do Gods work.


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post Feb 15 2019, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(TheOG @ Feb 15 2019, 12:28 AM) *
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Should Radah commit a crime or felony and I am there, if accused of Abetting a Wolfshead, then I will obviously surrender myself for the court to decide.
I cannot find any reference suggesting my association alone is a felony. I would expect quite a strong declaration, such as the introduction of Mawbdenism, so I hope this is correct in accordance with what is written. Even in Harlot’s list of felonies at Mordred’s Rest which has quite a few not listed elsewhere, it is only the Abetting of a Wolfshead that is felonius.
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Ash and Dust of Stars


Ash,

Radah's actions are broadly irrelevant in the situation you mention.

The interpretation of abetting a Wolfshead is of course up to the magistrate who deals with the accusation. Were it me (which I am glad it is not), I would consider the intentional provision of direct assistance to be required. That could range from providing them with hospitality through to concealing them from the proper authorities, as well as the obvious points of healing them, casting defensive spells on them, etc.. I would not expect being in the same place to be sufficient to warrant a guilty verdict.

Should you commit a felony, you are not subject to punishment until confirmed guilty by a magistrate and punishment has been declared. If you are accused, I would recommend immediately surrendering yourself (as you have rightly said you would), as it is a material consideration for sentencing.

I hope that helps. To reiterate, the actual interpretation is up to the magistrate, and ultimately the Covenant.

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post Feb 15 2019, 08:16 PM
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This is so boring....


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post Feb 15 2019, 08:22 PM
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Duke Stoneheart.


Thankyou, You understood me.

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