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post Jul 20 2018, 08:49 AM
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OK I have been asked by 8 different people about rages recently, so...

Any type of rage - You enter a rage and you are in combat. You cannot leave unless you have an ability that lets you. They do not apply to magic unless you are an elf/have mystical rages.
Rages do increase your level of resistance based on the type of rage (so 50% doubles it, 25% adds about a third to your level of resistance)

25% rage - You will attack your opponents, someone hitting you makes them an opponent. You can use offensive powers (So cast a lightning bolt, not a total heal or blink to leave the fight).

50% rage - You will attack anyone hostile. You can't cast without an ability to do so, or use anything that requires concentration (For example opponent study).

Before people ask this is not a rules change, its just it appears some people didn't know this.

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post Jul 20 2018, 09:13 AM
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Think some people were confused as it’s hard to find any rule saying you have to stay in combat or can’t leave combat in the current books , I just always assumed you can’t leave combat whilst raging as I was told this on my first ever dungeon


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post Jul 20 2018, 09:14 AM
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Thanks Lee. You'd think it was obvious, but it's worth mentioning you should probably roleplay being angry too!

Odd thing I've never really thought about though - so if your opponent has a +0 magic sword (i.e. physical and magical) it cuts through your rage? Do you do the thing about calculating damage from the magic side without the rage, and from the physical side with the rage, and take the worst?

How much damage does a warrior in AC 12 with a 33% rage and 1/2 effect fire take from a firebladed quad? 6pts or 7pts?

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Physical 18pt triple -AC 12 less 33% rage = 4pts +3pts fire (1/2 effect) = 7 pts?

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Physical triple - AC 12 less 33% rage = 4pts

Magic flaming quad - AC12, 1/2 effect = 6pts




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post Jul 20 2018, 09:32 AM
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Thanks for this Lee.
More clarifications like this would be great. Just because you old hands no how it works dosnt mean us new players do lol.

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post Jul 20 2018, 09:42 AM
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With physical damage with a magic component you apply your rages but can’t apply your 1/2 effects to my knowledge - years of playing this anyway. Although all my characters with rages just buy mystical rages so you can apply them to touch attacks etc.

You can apply your 1/2 effect fire to the 6pts from a fire blade though assuming you aren’t applying a half effect weapon blows or something similar...

Magic weapons aren’t actually relevant to normal people with physical hits I don’t believe... it’s just relevant if you’re magic only etc. Etc.

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post Jul 20 2018, 09:56 AM
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I thought it was only 50% and upwards that locked you into combat?


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post Jul 20 2018, 01:29 PM
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Hey Lee. Thanks for the clarification.

Do spells effects which mimic the effects of a rage thus incur the same clarification?
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post Jul 20 2018, 01:47 PM
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If the spell gives you a rage yes, if it gives a % then no.

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post Jul 20 2018, 04:52 PM
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And a cold rage?
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post Jul 20 2018, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(isbiraven @ Jul 20 2018, 05:52 PM) *
And a cold rage?


Pretty clear in the original post. A cold rage is a rage, use of any type rage locks you in combat.

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post Jul 20 2018, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(BBB @ Jul 20 2018, 06:02 PM) *
Pretty clear in the original post. A cold rage is a rage, use of any type rage locks you in combat.

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So what is the difference?
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post Jul 20 2018, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(isbiraven @ Jul 20 2018, 06:15 PM) *
So what is the difference?


Retain some control so don’t have to attack party at 25%.

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post Jul 20 2018, 05:50 PM
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So as an example:

I 25% rage, Duncan kills the thing I'm fighting from behind. I don't hit him.

I am in a 50% rage, Duncan kills thing I'm fighting and still has weapons out, and is last person i hit him.

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post Jul 20 2018, 05:59 PM
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Seven seven seven in area C,

if memory serves me correct...…

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post Jul 20 2018, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(duncanmatthias @ Jul 20 2018, 06:59 PM) *
Seven seven seven in area C,

if memory serves me correct...…

Never seen Duncan react so fast as when Lee is smacking him with Divine seven 😀

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post Jul 20 2018, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(miles @ Jul 20 2018, 07:32 PM) *
Never seen Duncan react so fast as when Lee is smacking him with Divine seven 😀

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Lol

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post Jul 20 2018, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(sonof @ Jul 20 2018, 09:49 AM) *
50% rage - You will attack anyone hostile. You can't cast without an ability to do so, or use anything that requires concentration (For example opponent study).

Lee


Could you use Opponent Study - if you had no concentration time - eg. from Always Prepared ? I'd assume not - as you still have to concentrate even without prep time but thought it's worth an ask, as who knew about the levels of resistance increase?

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post Jul 20 2018, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(giles @ Jul 20 2018, 09:05 PM) *
Could you use Opponent Study - if you had no concentration time - eg. from Always Prepared ? I'd assume not - as you still have to concentrate even without prep time but thought it's worth an ask, as who knew about the levels of resistance increase?

Giles.


I used the resistance thing a lot to comedy effect with Prot Goods as Vayle… Parties would prot me in to try and avoid problems during duels and the like...

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post Jul 20 2018, 08:23 PM
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0 seconds prep (e.g. mighty strikes and poised and ready) is fine.

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Sarah
post Jul 21 2018, 04:29 PM
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Hi Lee,

I get what you said below, but there is one particular type you have not specifically mentioned, so just to get this clarified for everyone

3rd level war dancer
25% calm fury 1/3 levels, as cold rage however war-dancer need not beserk and may instead act as he will, lasts 5 minutes or until war dancer leaves combat.
Probably wrong but thought this was effectively the old Calm rage, which was you dont have to attack your allies, and could leave combat when you chose ?

Its the 'may act as he will' bit that says to me exactly that - do what you like

Cheers
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QUOTE(sonof @ Jul 20 2018, 09:49 AM) *
OK I have been asked by 8 different people about rages recently, so...

Any type of rage - You enter a rage and you are in combat. You cannot leave unless you have an ability that lets you. They do not apply to magic unless you are an elf/have mystical rages.
Rages do increase your level of resistance based on the type of rage (so 50% doubles it, 25% adds about a third to your level of resistance)

25% rage - You will attack your opponents, someone hitting you makes them an opponent. You can use offensive powers (So cast a lightning bolt, not a total heal or blink to leave the fight).

50% rage - You will attack anyone hostile. You can't cast without an ability to do so, or use anything that requires concentration (For example opponent study).

Before people ask this is not a rules change, its just it appears some people didn't know this.

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