Pure Priests, what do you use? |
Pure Priests, what do you use? |
Jun 16 2015, 04:50 PM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,556 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Claphham Member No.: 44 |
Multiclass pathfinder for 350 points.
Combat wary, jumps, stealth, DAC, healing facility, perception, you just can't beat it as a noncombatant's survival package. |
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Jun 17 2015, 07:56 AM
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Militiaman Group: Members Posts: 280 Joined: 5-December 13 Member No.: 3,211 |
Multiclass pathfinder for 350 points. Combat wary, jumps, stealth, DAC, healing facility, perception, you just can't beat it as a noncombatant's survival package. Multiclassing to scout is good both for the reason you mention above, and for the purposes if giving you something else to do (healing can occasionally get a bit dull). Being able to get good sensory abilities is a real boon. And you learn how to make healing potions if you want to. There are options for purely spiritual daggers if that becomes your thing one day. On the downside, it takes you into another bracket, which makes you "less pure" and thus puts a limit on how good a priest and healer you could potentially be (although it is a very high limit as you are still a 1st class pure priest), and cuts off other potential multiclassing options. As you can get warrior life, a stick to parry with and enhanced distancing without leaving the priest bracket, and can use spiritual powers for survivability, you have good options to survive without going out of the bracket. So there are ups and downs to multiclassing pathfinder, but I agree it is definitely something to seriously consider if being alive is your goal. |
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Jun 17 2015, 08:26 AM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,617 Joined: 14-April 12 From: under a rock Member No.: 2,327 |
Go armour priest - survivability > 1 more spirit per level.
Unless you like the roleplay of the vunerability. -------------------- Marcos
Lucien Hollowfall - Phoenix Warlock Flint - Ratfolk "warrior" Huskar - The KRAKAN Boglo - Weapons Priest Borin - Elder Fey Blue Mage |
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Jun 17 2015, 11:36 AM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 27-August 09 From: Harlow, Essex Member No.: 1,166 |
The extra 8 spirits and 1 extra spirit per extra levels of spirits, is far more worthy than the ability to put on chain, there is far more to gain being a pure priest. Don't get me wrong armoured priest are good but not the expense of power points
-------------------- Jules
Seth/800 Blades - 10k - Pure Priest/Budoka/White Wizard Kazan Toshimoko - 9.8k Council Yojimbo Xeno - 6.2k - Ivory Warrior/Wizard Dipp - 4k - Far Northfolk True Awakener Sosen Oku - 3.7k - Jade Dragon Shaman (Bene/Healing/Jade Wiz) Lt Benjamin Ford - 3.6k Nightsoil Comms Grey Knight Moru - 3.1k - Twilight Elf Utility Wizard - Abel - RIP (21/08/15) |
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Jun 17 2015, 11:45 AM
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Avatar Group: Members Posts: 6,600 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 111 |
Totally disagree. That number of spirits is nothing once you consider innates, devout priest (or other priestly m/c) and so on. It is a drop in the ocean. Armoured priest gives you decent AC, the ability to use a shield (for 30pts) and lets you get SAC easily and cheaply. Once you throw in Spirit Warrior (for the base Max AC & life increase) and you're trivially in AC 12 with a Shield and 80+ life without leaving the bracket.
Sure, if all you care about is the absolute most possible power, then be a pure priest. If you care about survival as well and you aren't going to blow you M/R on it or enter another bracket (and don't have a passive heal bucket or similar) then armoured is a very good way to go, especially early doors where AC 6 - 9 can be a real life saver. Yes, there are other options, but as a basic package for survival + decent power combo without leaving the bracket AP > PP. Besides, a shield never becomes bad, at any level. Huw |
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Jun 17 2015, 11:55 AM
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Deity Group: Members Posts: 12,512 Joined: 10-November 07 Member No.: 25 |
The extra 8 spirits and 1 extra spirit per extra levels of spirits, is far more worthy than the ability to put on chain, there is far more to gain being a pure priest. Don't get me wrong armoured priest are good but not the expense of power points Actually I think I'd disagree. As a percentage of spirits it gets relatively small quite quickly. The points you save on AC can quickly go into innates of commonly cast miracles and be more cost effective. I don't even wear above AC3 as my armoured priest and the loss of 8 spirits isn't that big a deal just for those 3 points. It also makes going Warrior / Paladin or similar better for what you gain. BBB -------------------- Grey's Law: Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice...
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Jun 17 2015, 11:57 AM
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Deity Group: Members Posts: 12,512 Joined: 10-November 07 Member No.: 25 |
Besides, a shield never becomes bad, at any level. Huw A fantastic 30pts spend, although I have often witnessed the comedy ocasions where players forget the person holding the shield isn't a front line type, and that the Pure Spirit Weapons they occasionally whip out are actually rubbish versus elementals... BBB -------------------- Grey's Law: Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice...
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Jun 17 2015, 11:58 AM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 4,045 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 110 |
I think it depends on what you want to do and your play style.
AP is very good for the extra AC, however if you are playing a dedicated healer and combat healing you won't use the shield, it will just get in the way. Also, depending on how much you notice wearing armour, it slows you down and makes it harder to get out of the way - which is going to matter a lot. Leather rather than chain can be seriously good, that and a bless is AC 6 which makes a lot of difference. But, you'll get that armour-wearing stuff on a combat healer multiclass, along with more life, distancing / other damage reductions / combat wary and a perm passive if you bracket lock yourself. Devote to the tree for the oodles of innate healing, get a fairly standard non standard to stop buying res after the third time round and you're done. Although paying attention still beats everything C |
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Jun 17 2015, 12:14 PM
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Avatar Group: Members Posts: 6,034 Joined: 23-June 08 From: Essex Member No.: 574 |
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Jun 17 2015, 12:20 PM
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Legend Group: Members Posts: 4,045 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 110 |
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Jun 17 2015, 12:40 PM
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Avatar Group: Members Posts: 6,349 Joined: 23-November 07 From: Welling Member No.: 37 |
I would always recommend armoured priest over pure. As others have said, the AC is very much a life safer and the difference the extra spirits makes can soon be countered by innates and similar.
Shield is a good choice as well, although I have often seen it lead to people die as they stand there and try to parry rather then running/shifting away. But like most things at laby, there are lots of different ways to go about it and everyone will give different advice. Its deciding what style of healing priest you want to be and going from there. -------------------- Rich
fromum@labyrinthe.co.uk |
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Jun 17 2015, 01:40 PM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,756 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Guildford Member No.: 1,355 |
I think it depends on what you want to do and your play style. AP is very good for the extra AC, however if you are playing a dedicated healer and combat healing you won't use the shield, it will just get in the way. Also, depending on how much you notice wearing armour, it slows you down and makes it harder to get out of the way - which is going to matter a lot. Leather rather than chain can be seriously good, that and a bless is AC 6 which makes a lot of difference. But, you'll get that armour-wearing stuff on a combat healer multiclass, along with more life, distancing / other damage reductions / combat wary and a perm passive if you bracket lock yourself. Devote to the tree for the oodles of innate healing, get a fairly standard non standard to stop buying res after the third time round and you're done. Although paying attention still beats everything C I am so coming to you for advice when I start a Sponge-Bath pure priest -------------------- Andy
...................................... Godric Snowsson - Warrior/Wizard/Warrior Priest - 7.8k Ginkgo Panama - Kensai/Warrior Priest - 4.9k Grandbow - Human Spirit Warrior - 663pts Noyen Nopac Zu - Snake Clan Monk - 1.9k Coconut (aka ‘Dead Ogre Walking’)- Half Ogre Warrior - 4k 'It can't rain all the time!' |
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Jun 17 2015, 05:23 PM
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Mercenary Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 5-March 11 From: bromley Member No.: 1,807 |
I am so coming to you for advice when I start a Sponge-Bath pure priest Should make up for all your sponging -------------------- Dan Hunt
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Jun 17 2015, 08:39 PM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,756 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Guildford Member No.: 1,355 |
Should make up for all your sponging I sponge because my characters fight. Plus the monsters know my name! -------------------- Andy
...................................... Godric Snowsson - Warrior/Wizard/Warrior Priest - 7.8k Ginkgo Panama - Kensai/Warrior Priest - 4.9k Grandbow - Human Spirit Warrior - 663pts Noyen Nopac Zu - Snake Clan Monk - 1.9k Coconut (aka ‘Dead Ogre Walking’)- Half Ogre Warrior - 4k 'It can't rain all the time!' |
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Jun 17 2015, 08:40 PM
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Hero Group: Members Posts: 2,756 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Guildford Member No.: 1,355 |
I sponge because my characters fight. Plus the monsters know my name! Plus I forgot Rule No1: PARRY!!! -------------------- Andy
...................................... Godric Snowsson - Warrior/Wizard/Warrior Priest - 7.8k Ginkgo Panama - Kensai/Warrior Priest - 4.9k Grandbow - Human Spirit Warrior - 663pts Noyen Nopac Zu - Snake Clan Monk - 1.9k Coconut (aka ‘Dead Ogre Walking’)- Half Ogre Warrior - 4k 'It can't rain all the time!' |
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